Hello again list, I am posting an additional question separately so that people can respond to either question separately, if they choose. There is lots of equipment that you can make for yourself. I have found that there are times when I make something that seems pretty basic and then someone reports that they made the same thing with a great improvement and I wish (and sometimes do) I could do it again. Right now I want to make stands for my kayak(s). After a day of paddling, I like to put my boat up on some rickety old saw horses and hose it down. Occasionally, I will use these same horses to perform some repairs or other maintenance on the boat. I want to build some better, more stable, kinder-to-the-boat, portable stands. I have seen what look like a pair of letter X's at my local kayak dealer and other stands that look like two uprights connected by a piece of fire hose. Both good approaches but perhaps there are others. I would like people to suggest stand designs that incorporate some or all of the following: Portable (aka light weight) Non corroding Folding for easier storage Stable during use (such as flipping the boat when rinsing) Easily constructed Low cost I imagine there may be some people that say that making a stand is sort of a no-brainer. Just do it and go paddling. But I see it as a way of making equipment that helps extend a great day (since, presumably, you've already been paddling) and I'd like to take a little care with this. Please share ideas. Again, thanks in advance, Bill Leonhardt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:15:41 -0400, you wrote: > >After a day of paddling, I like to put my boat up on some rickety old saw >horses and hose it down. Occasionally, I will use these same horses to >perform some repairs or other maintenance on the boat. > >I want to build some better, more stable, kinder-to-the-boat, portable >stands. I have seen what look like a pair of letter X's at my local kayak >dealer and other stands that look like two uprights connected by a piece of >fire hose. Both good approaches but perhaps there are others. What I use for maintenance and building are folding x shaped stands (2) with cloth (in this case 14 oz nylon, but any strong cloth will do). The X is essentially a pair of ~ four feet long 2 x 3 bolted in the centre. How do I stop the x's from falling over? The end of each strut has an 24 inch cross piece held in place with a triangular plywood gusset.. Cloth is notched to go around strut and laced to hoizontal suppport. Ascii art of one strut below. ________________________ |________________________| \ | | / \ | | / | | | | | | | | ////// | |/////[] 3/8" pivot bolt for x | | | | | | | | | | / | | \ gusset to stiffen ________/_ | |__\________ |________________________| Ground The cloth is gentle to the boat and the X'x fold flat for storage. Cheers! Mark *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
My "stand" doubles as a truck-top rack for the canopy of my Toyota. I built a "ladder" out of 2x4, each rail about 6' with three 17" cross beams of 2x4. Fit yours to your beam. . . The rails are covered with large diameter water-pipe insulation which I glued on with Liquid Nails, but I don't think they need glue. This "ladder" rests on the ladder rack of my pick-up canopy. The end 2x4's provide cleats that position the rack fore and aft on the rack. I have a 2x4 "lug" that runs over the top of the rear cross beam on the ladder rack so that as I slide the boat on the rack from the rear, the gel-coat is protected from the hard metal edges of the rack. Loading the boat is a matter of sitting the bow between the rails and sliding the boat onto the roof from the rear. No worries about aligning the "second cradle" because the rails run full-length of the hull. Once the boat is in place, I run tie down straps (Deluge nylon) over the boat and secured to the ladder rack on the truck. This rack provides a long bearing surface for the boat to ride on and lots of friction in the "cradle" so the boat doesn't shift. The insulation on the rails allows plenty of cushioning so that the boat can be cinched down tight on the rack without creating any pressure points. I don't secure a line fore or aft, and the boat has never shifted even slightly in thousands of freeway, rough road and tight corner miles. I've even packed a second boat leaning on edge (plastic hull) against this rack with the tie-downs running over both boats. No shifting. I painted the wood with exterior latex house paint because that's what was sitting around in the shop. The wood needs a weatherproof finish. I sit this rack on the driveway and use it for working/washing/waxing the boat. Easy to position the hull upright, upside down or on edge. If you're working on edge, use tie-down straps to hold the hull in place. Finally, this carrier sits on the ladder rack without any fasteners other than the tie downs. When I'm launched, the rack comes off the roof and gets locked inside the canopy. The whole set-up is 6' by 8" by 20" and weighs maybe 20 lbs. It stores on end in the garage. Mine cost me about $15.00 not counting the tie-down straps. Geo. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>I would like people to suggest stand designs that incorporate some or all >of the following: > > Portable (aka light weight) > Non corroding > Folding for easier storage > Stable during use (such as flipping the boat when rinsing) > Easily constructed > Low cost > >I imagine there may be some people that say that making a stand is sort of >a no-brainer. Just do it and go paddling. But I see it as a way of making >equipment that helps extend a great day (since, presumably, you've already >been paddling) and I'd like to take a little care with this. > >Please share ideas. Again, thanks in advance, Bill Leonhardt ____________________________________________________________________________ __________ Bill this fits none of the above but is the best stand I have found http://www.jacksonville.net/~dldecker/fska5.htm#rack Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Several years ago I saw what I thought to be a nice, simple idea for boat stands. These were used for rowing shells, though. Legs of PVC pipe configured like a TV tray (they open into a double X with bolt pivot points midway down). The "tray" was nylon looking stuff, ala lawn chair, sewn over the pipe. They actually were very much like those canvas folding stools. One could use a series of rope or straps too. I once built a stand using 1/4" nylon braided rope as slings. The only problem I can see, have experienced, is that the sling approach allows to boat to rock while undergoing scrubbing, sanding, etc . . . Fred Bill Leonhardt wrote: > Hello again list, > > I am posting an additional question separately so that people can respond > to either question separately, if they choose. > > There is lots of equipment that you can make for yourself. I have found > that there are times when I make something that seems pretty basic and then > someone reports that they made the same thing with a great improvement and > I wish (and sometimes do) I could do it again. Right now I want to make > stands for my kayak(s). > > After a day of paddling, I like to put my boat up on some rickety old saw > horses and hose it down. Occasionally, I will use these same horses to > perform some repairs or other maintenance on the boat. > > I want to build some better, more stable, kinder-to-the-boat, portable > stands. I have seen what look like a pair of letter X's at my local kayak > dealer and other stands that look like two uprights connected by a piece of > fire hose. Both good approaches but perhaps there are others. > > I would like people to suggest stand designs that incorporate some or all > of the following: > > Portable (aka light weight) > Non corroding > Folding for easier storage > Stable during use (such as flipping the boat when rinsing) > Easily constructed > Low cost > > I imagine there may be some people that say that making a stand is sort of > a no-brainer. Just do it and go paddling. But I see it as a way of making > equipment that helps extend a great day (since, presumably, you've already > been paddling) and I'd like to take a little care with this. > > Please share ideas. Again, thanks in advance, Bill Leonhardt > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I hose my kayak off while it's still on my Honda. That way they both get rinsed of saltwater and sand. I use saw horses padded with foam for repairs. Also, I hang the kayak in the garage from loops, lenghtwise. It's about waist high, and I can get into the boat for certain types of repair and cleaning. The loops are a three boat set from Perception. I got them about 8 years ago for $45. Barbara At 02:47 AM 4/7/98 GMT, Mark Stirling wrote: >On Tue, 07 Apr 1998 14:15:41 -0400, you wrote: > > >> >>After a day of paddling, I like to put my boat up on some rickety old saw >>horses and hose it down. Occasionally, I will use these same horses to >>perform some repairs or other maintenance on the boat. >> >>I want to build some better, more stable, kinder-to-the-boat, portable >>stands. I have seen what look like a pair of letter X's at my local kayak >>dealer and other stands that look like two uprights connected by a piece of >>fire hose. Both good approaches but perhaps there are others. > > >What I use for maintenance and building are folding x shaped stands >(2) with cloth (in this case 14 oz nylon, but any strong cloth will >do). The X is essentially a pair of ~ four feet long 2 x 3 bolted >in the centre. >How do I stop the x's from falling over? >The end of each strut has an 24 inch cross piece held in place with a >triangular plywood gusset.. Cloth is notched to go around strut and >laced to hoizontal suppport. > Ascii art of one strut below. > ________________________ > |________________________| > \ | | / > \ | | / > | | > | | > | | > | | > ////// | |/////[] 3/8" pivot bolt for x > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > / | | \ gusset to stiffen > ________/_ | |__\________ > |________________________| > > Ground > > >The cloth is gentle to the boat and the X'x fold flat for storage. > >Cheers! Mark >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > > * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * --*--*-- Barbara Kossy Communications vox: 510-234-3479 fax: 510-234-6615 * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- * -- *--* -- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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