Re: [Paddlewise] Electric Bilge Pump Question

From: Niels Henriksen <ap294_at_freenet.carleton.ca>
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:33:56 -0400 (EDT)
There are sealed lead acid batteries. I use them all the time for lights on my bike.
They will not leak whenn rolled about.

There is also heat shrink tubing that when heated also emitts a clear sealant that
seals the joints.  These are used for underwater connections at 200 ft.  A well pump at 230v
that is emersed for 10 years or more.
Niels 


>Julio,
>
>  Sounds like your pump is much more powerful than the small portable
>one I used to have.  But you said the pump I described wasn't that small
>(you are right about the approximate size).  However, aren't two 6 volt
>batteries much larger and heavier?
>
>  The pump I mentioned IS relatively light (running only on 3 C or D
>batteries).  I would hate to have the weight of 2 6 volt batteries with
>me at all times.  More troublesome is the possibility of an acid leak if
>the boat flipped or was rocking alot.  The pump I described is made to
>be totally submersible - not the same with your batteries.
>
>  Anyway, I hope your system works.  For now, I'm just using a scoop and
>a hand pump - low tech, but the batteries never fail!
>
>  - Scott
>
> MacWilliams wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > Why don't you all just get the portable little pump sold at Boat U.S.
>> > and others for about $30.  It is pretty quick at dumping water and runs
>> > off of three D batteries (if I recall correctly).  The best thing about
>> > it is that it is compact,removable and has a long hose which you can
>> > hang outside the kayak.  I would be very hesistant to make any holes
>> > through the bottom of my kayak.
>> 
>> That pump is not that compact. Its footprint is about the size of a
>> hand with fingers spread appart. It only pumps 200 Gallons per Hour.
>> 
>> Another drawback I found is that if you have a dry top and a neoprene
>> spray skirt there is not any place through which you can pass the outlet
>> hose.
>> 
>> You have to remove your spray skirt to get to the switch and turn the
>> pump off.
>> 
>> The system I am installing uses a 500GPH Rule pump, since it is the
>> only one that is reported not to break. I use two of those square 6v
>> batteries for emergency lights connected in series; the idea of having
>> a gel battery like big boats have, full of
>> sulfuric acid gel, inside the hull was not appealing. I connected it
>> to a float switch which I can strap down when I practice rolls (otherwise
>> the float would fall back an turn on the pump every time the kayak is
>> upside down).
>> 
>> I tried using a bucket, which turned out to be a lot faster than
>> the hand pump in a kayak with a large cockpit. Unfortunately is it
>> useless if you have a Greenland style 20 inch cockpit.
>> 
>> An electric pump for sea kayaking that is easy to install an operate,
>> is one of the items that belong to the list of things that for
>> some strange reason are missing from the sea kayak market, yet they
>> are extremely useful.
>> That list includes: airbags large enough to fill a sea kayak's for
>> and aft hulls, liferaft with rigging and hydrodinamic shape, solid
>> paddlefloat with rigging, spray skirt with pocket for radio and flares,
>> etc, etc.
>> 
>> - Julio
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