Laurie wrote; >Hi fellow paddlers, > I can't believe the hipe about paddles that is going >on. Last year I attended a session on a beach where one of the countries top >Marathon coaches was talking about paddling efficiently. One thing he said >was that the paddle does not actually move through the water, it is very >much like having a long series of posts set in concrete under the water - >you reach forward with your left hand and pull yourself and kayak forward, >then reach forward with the right hand and pull forward again. > >If he is right, and next time you are out paddling along at a reasonable >speed put your paddle in next to a stationary floating object - you will see >that it does barely move more than a inch or so. So if he is right, then it >logically follows that the shape is irrelevant - all you need is some area >of blade that will not move through the water. Maybe a couple of table >tennis bats on the end of a piece of broom handle would be just as good as >half the fancy paddles out there. (SNIP) He is wrong. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I think the marathon coach's analogy of forward strokes being like a series of posts up to which one pulls (rotates) is helpful for teaching, but I believe that it is mistaken to take what the coach only intended to be an analogy and use it as the basis for claiming that paddle shape is irrelevant, as Laurie has done. To my students I describe braces as spreading peanut butter on toast, but this does not mean that they should lick their paddles. When I was first learning sprint canoeing, the pull phase of the stroke was described to me as ******* the paddle, but much to the relief of my girlfirend, I did not take this too literally either. (That being said, I have yet to find a boat or paddle whith which I could not have fun.) Richard Culpeper www.geocities.com/~culpeper My time in purgatory has ended -- I'm moving to Thunder Bay on Superior!!!!!! John Winters wrote: > Laurie wrote; > > >Hi fellow paddlers, > > I can't believe the hipe about paddles that is > going > >on. Last year I attended a session on a beach where one of the countries > top > >Marathon coaches was talking about paddling efficiently. One thing he said > >was that the paddle does not actually move through the water, it is very > >much like having a long series of posts set in concrete under the water - > >you reach forward with your left hand and pull yourself and kayak forward, > >then reach forward with the right hand and pull forward again. > > > >If he is right, and next time you are out paddling along at a reasonable > >speed put your paddle in next to a stationary floating object - you will > see > >that it does barely move more than a inch or so. So if he is right, then > it > >logically follows that the shape is irrelevant - all you need is some area > >of blade that will not move through the water. Maybe a couple of table > >tennis bats on the end of a piece of broom handle would be just as good as > >half the fancy paddles out there. > (SNIP) > > He is wrong. > > Cheers, > John Winters > Redwing Designs > Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft > http://home.ican.net/~735769/ > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Richard wrote; - >I think the marathon coach's analogy of forward strokes being like a series of >posts up to which one pulls (rotates) is helpful for teaching, but I believe >that it is mistaken to take what the coach only intended to be an analogy and >use it as the basis for claiming that paddle shape is irrelevant, as Laurie has >done. To my students I describe braces as spreading peanut butter on toast, >but this does not mean that they should lick their paddles. When I was first >learning sprint canoeing, the pull phase of the stroke was described to me as >******* the paddle, but much to the relief of my girlfirend, I did not take >this too literally either. (That being said, I have yet to find a boat or >paddle whith which I could not have fun.) You mean you aren't supposed to lick your paddle? Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:56 PM 7/22/98 -0400, John Winters wrote: >Richard wrote; > >- > >>I think the marathon coach's analogy of forward strokes being like a >series of >>posts up to which one pulls (rotates) is helpful for teaching, but I >believe >>that it is mistaken to take what the coach only intended to be an analogy >and >>use it as the basis for claiming that paddle shape is irrelevant, as >Laurie has >>done. To my students I describe braces as spreading peanut butter on >toast, >>but this does not mean that they should lick their paddles. When I was >first >>learning sprint canoeing, the pull phase of the stroke was described to me >as >>******* the paddle, but much to the relief of my girlfirend, I did not >take >>this too literally either. (That being said, I have yet to find a boat or >>paddle whith which I could not have fun.) > > >You mean you aren't supposed to lick your paddle? > >Cheers, >John Winters >Redwing Designs >Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft >http://home.ican.net/~735769/ Do those sewer kayakers lick their paddles?? Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Kissing the paddle, yes. Licking -- certainly not on the first date. ******* the paddle? Only on extended wilderness trips. Which brings me to an amusing story courtesy of my Uncle Gordie, who spend a couple of decades in the arctic tracking ice flows from the nose of an old bomber. He says that there were some remote weather recording stations which were staffed by only one person at a time, and of which a few received no contact throughout the winter other than by radio. Each station was supplied with live chickens to provide fresh food. One winter one of the fellows manning one of these isolated stations started to mention a lady-friend in his converations over the radio. Everyone at first thought that it was a joke. The fellow talked more and more about his lady-friend. Everyone started to think that he had an imaginary friend. The fellow started spending all his radio time talking about his lady-friend. The decision was made to pull him out as quickly as possible in the spring. When spring came and his replacement arrived, everyone was rather suprised to learn that his lady-friend was not imaginary after all, but even more suprised to learn that she was a chicken. Richard Culpeper www.geocities.com/~culpeper John Winters wrote: > Richard wrote; > --snip-- > When I was > first > >learning sprint canoeing, the pull phase of the stroke was described to me > as > >******* the paddle, but much to the relief of my girlfirend, I did not > take > >this too literally either. (That being said, I have yet to find a boat or > >paddle whith which I could not have fun.) > > You mean you aren't supposed to lick your paddle? > > Cheers, > John Winters > Redwing Designs > Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft > http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Dan wrote; ->Do those sewer kayakers lick their paddles?? Doesn't everyone? Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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