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From: Will Sahli <wmsahli_at_onestoptele.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] New Kid on the block
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 23:58:16 -0500
Greetings All,

I've been lurking on the list for several months now, and have gained
much insight into paddling from you all. There is a real wealth of
knowledge, humor, and a willing ness to share experience with others
less knowledgeable. 

I have been a casual canoeist for 35 years (finally need to get serious
about my fun, I guess), and am dying to try kayaking. Some potential
handicaps are size (I'm 6'3" tall, weigh 285, and have size 15 feet) and
the need to research everything to death before I jump in with both very
large feet. I'm looking for suggestions on sea kayaks as I live very
close to Chicago and so to Lake Michigan; also would like to gain enough
expertise to tackle Superior for an extended trip (in several years, as
I hopefully progress in skill). 

Any input or advise, be it wise, wiseass, or halfass, would help.

Having Much Too Much Fun

Will Sahli
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Boat for a Big Guy (was New Kid ...)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 01:48:46 -0700
Will Sahli wrote:

> I have been a casual canoeist for 35 years (finally need to get serious
> about my fun, I guess), and am dying to try kayaking. Some potential
> handicaps are size (I'm 6'3" tall, weigh 285, and have size 15 feet) and
> the need to research everything to death before I jump in with both very
> large feet. 

Hoo, boy!  I'm 5-10, 225 lbs, and have size 9 feet.  Even so, there are
a lot of "normal-sized" sea kayaks which are too small in the cockpit
area to fit me *comfortably.*

In fiberglass, try the Wind Dancer from Eddyline (http://eddyline.com/),
or some of the HV (high volume) models from Current Designs
(http://www.cdkayak.com/).  I suspect you will find several cockpits
which will accommodate your frame, but few footpeg regions able to
handle your size 15 feet.

An entry-level boat which MIGHT work is the Aquaterra Spectrum, in
plastic.  Even so, you would probably have to re-position the footpeg
runners (and lengthen the rudder cables).

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
sea kayaker

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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Boat for a Big Guy (was New Kid ...)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 07:43:02 -0700
Dave Kruger wrote:
> 
> Will Sahli wrote:
> 
> > I have been a casual canoeist for 35 years (finally need to get serious
> > about my fun, I guess), and am dying to try kayaking. Some potential
> > handicaps are size (I'm 6'3" tall, weigh 285, and have size 15 feet) and
> > the need to research everything to death before I jump in with both very
> > large feet.

> An entry-level boat which MIGHT work is the Aquaterra Spectrum, in
> plastic.  Even so, you would probably have to re-position the footpeg
> runners (and lengthen the rudder cables).

I don't have any handy tables around on payloads (paddler plus gear) for
various boats.  But, from memory, I suspect that for the Spectrum (which
is 14' 4" long by 24.5 inch beam and weighs a claimed 60 pounds) it
cannot be more than 300 pounds if that.  I know for the Nautiraid Raid
1, which is slightly over 15 feet long and 25 inch beam (its external
sponsons hang out for another 4 inches overall) the payload is in the
300-330 range; and this is a boat with considerable extra flotation
built in because of the sponsons.

Which brings up the question of payloads and how accurate they are.  The
Klepper single claims 550 pound payload!!!  Can that really be?  I know
it can carry a lot, but that figure is a lot too!

I suppose payload limits may be a matter of how much freeboard you feel
comfortable with and whether you want to supplement it by wearing a
snorkel :-)

ralph diaz
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Boat for a Big Guy (was New Kid ...)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 08:02:42 -0700
rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> Dave Kruger wrote:
> >
> > Will Sahli wrote:
> >
> > > I have been a casual canoeist [snip] and am dying to try kayaking. 
> > >[snip](I'm 6'3" tall, weigh 285, and have size 15 feet)
> 
> > An entry-level boat which MIGHT work is the Aquaterra Spectrum, [snip]
> 
> I don't have any handy tables around on payloads (paddler plus gear) for
> various boats.  But, from memory, I suspect that for the Spectrum (which
> is 14' 4" long by 24.5 inch beam and weighs a claimed 60 pounds) it
> cannot be more than 300 pounds if that.   [snip]

Good point, Ralph.  I'm pretty sure I have paddled the Spectrum I used
to own with more than 300 lbs of payload, and felt it was OK.  However,
A 285 lb passenger does not leave much left for gear.  Thanks for the
heads-up.

> Which brings up the question of payloads and how accurate they are.  The
> Klepper single claims 550 pound payload!!!  Can that really be?  I know
> it can carry a lot, but that figure is a lot too!

Suspect some manufacturers rate their boats conservatively, some do not.

-- 
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
sea kayaker


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