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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Fish farming (fwd)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:25:03 -0700 (MST)
*** Fish farming does not save ocean fish - study

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Salmon and shrimp farming does not protect the
world's dwindling fish supply, as once thought, but reduces it
because of feeding requirements and environmental damage, researchers
said Thursday. Scientists had thought fish farming, or aquaculture,
could provide a valuable resource management tool and a steady food
supply. But a new report indicates the booming shrimp and salmon
industries actually damage the delicate balance of the seas. "(The
report) challenges the very common assumption that fish farming
produces more fish for the world to eat," said Rebecca Goldburg, a
biologist for the Environmental Defense Fund who worked on the
journal Science report. See
http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2556835953-166


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From: R. Walker <rww_at_mailbox.neosoft.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fish farming (fwd)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 08:59:11 -0600
> *** Fish farming does not save ocean fish - study
>[snippage]
> said Rebecca Goldburg, a biologist for the Environmental Defense Fund who
> worked on the journal Science report. See
> http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2556835953-166

Problem is, this is like asking the Tobacco companies to do a 
study on the addictiveness of cigarrette smoke.  EDF starts out 
with an axe to grind, and then proceeds to grind it.  Big surprise.
For all we know the study actually is true; but because of who did 
the study, it looses all credibility.


Richard Walker
Houston, TX
http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html
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From: Dave Kruger <dkruger_at_pacifier.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fish farming (fwd)
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 07:39:39 -0800
R. Walker wrote:
> 
> > *** Fish farming does not save ocean fish - study
> >[snippage]
> > said Rebecca Goldburg, a biologist for the Environmental Defense Fund who
> > worked on the journal Science report. See
> > http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2556835953-166
> 
> Problem is, this is like asking the Tobacco companies to do a
> study on the addictiveness of cigarrette smoke.  EDF starts out
> with an axe to grind, and then proceeds to grind it.  Big surprise.
> For all we know the study actually is true; but because of who did
> the study, it loses all credibility.
> 
> Richard Walker

Richard, did you read the article before you wrote your remarks?  Here is an excerpt:

>  The researchers pointed out that some types of fish farming
> were sustainable and could offer viable alternatives to
> wild-caught fish and act as a valuable food source.
>             ``Good'' farms produce carp, oysters and mussels, they said.
>             But there is a pressing need to consider the serious
> problems created in the growing $8 billion shrimp and salmon
> industries, the experts said.
>             ``We are not damning all aquaculture,'' Lubchenco said.
> ''Some types of fish farming will be an essential component of
> food for the future. We are saying these two are growing
> explosively, and these are ones where we need lots of
> improvements.''
>          ^REUTERS_at_

The study was published in the prestigious journal Science, a peer-reviewed publication.  One of the
authors is Jane Lubchenco, a well-known researcher employed by Oregon State University, a land-grant
university closely allied with the agricultural industry in my state.

Dr. Lubchenco is regarded as a hard-headed biologist with credentials most of us would die for.  The
EDF may have provided some of the funding for the study;  if that taints the study, so be it.  Money
is the currency needed to do research.  Dr. Lubchenco is a damn good scientist, and deserves better
treatment than you gave her.

--
Dave Kruger
Astoria, OR
sea kayaker
chemist/"environmentalist"
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From: John Somers <somers_at_utmbrt.utmb.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fish farming (fwd)
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:29:15 -0600
At 08:59 AM 10/30/98 -0600, you wrote:
>> *** Fish farming does not save ocean fish - study
>>[snippage]
>> said Rebecca Goldburg, a biologist for the Environmental Defense Fund who
>> worked on the journal Science report. See
>> http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2556835953-166
>
>Problem is, this is like asking the Tobacco companies to do a 
>study on the addictiveness of cigarrette smoke.  EDF starts out 
>with an axe to grind, and then proceeds to grind it.  Big surprise.
>For all we know the study actually is true; but because of who did 
>the study, it looses all credibility.
>
>
>Richard Walker


Question: What are your qualifications for assessing the credibility of
those who have done this study or the credibility of the study itself?
Have you read the study report?

John Somers

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