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From: Gerald Foodman <klagjf_at_worldnet.att.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] AT Paddle
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:52:19 -0800
At great expense, ($375), I acquired an Adventure Technology touring paddle.
It has a slightly bent shaft at the grip and a ovaled shape that gives
extremely precise feedback as to what the blade angle is.  The construction
appears to be the best of any paddle I ever saw.

I did a rolling practice session with the paddle and found it remarkably
easier to roll with.  Now I never miss a roll in practice on my good side
and very rarely on my bad,  but with this grip on the AT paddle I seemed to
fly up, and every roll seemed perfect.  Was I having a good day or could the
paddle make such a difference?  I have a number of other paddles with
various blade shapes from Greenland to wide blade, shor and long and never
noticed that any of them was easier to roll with than any other.

Jerry



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From: Stephen Bird <stephen.bird_at_superaje.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] AT Paddle
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 01:12:56 GMT
On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:52:19 -0800, you wrote:

>At great expense, ($375), I acquired an Adventure Technology touring paddle.
>It has a slightly bent shaft at the grip and a ovaled shape that gives
>extremely precise feedback as to what the blade angle is.  The construction
>appears to be the best of any paddle I ever saw.

Is there a web site where these paddles may be seen or is there a retailer
that you can suggest? TIA
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From: K. Whilden <kwhilden_at_u.washington.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] AT Paddle
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:17:04 -0800 (PST)
There is a picture of the new AT sea kayak paddle in the latest issue of 
Sea Kayaker. Their website is
www.atpaddle.com

I am a big fan of AT paddles. I have their whitewater paddle, and it
certainly is the best ever made from composites. I have used a prototype
sea kayak paddle briefly, and it was easily the best composite sea kayak
paddle I have ever used. However, I still prefer my $25 Greenland stick
any time I am on the sea. 

The ergonomics of their crankshaft is light years ahead of the other
cranks and double-torque paddles I have seen and used. The construction of
the paddle is as close to bomb-proof I have seen. It is worth the $375 in
my opinion, but be warned. Once you start using an AT paddle, you may not
be able to go back to anything else.

Cheers,
Kevin
	 ___________________                                                            
	/   Kevin Whilden   \
       |Dept. of Geosciences \___
       |University of Washington \
       |kwhilden_at_u.washington.edu| 
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On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Stephen Bird wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:52:19 -0800, you wrote:
> 
> >At great expense, ($375), I acquired an Adventure Technology touring paddle.
> >It has a slightly bent shaft at the grip and a ovaled shape that gives
> >extremely precise feedback as to what the blade angle is.  The construction
> >appears to be the best of any paddle I ever saw.
> 
> Is there a web site where these paddles may be seen or is there a retailer
> that you can suggest? TIA
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From: Mattson, Timothy G <timothy.g.mattson_at_intel.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] AT Paddle
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:41:24 -0800
 
I can't speak for the AT paddle, but I have noticed a similar phenomina with
my epic excalibur wing paddle.  A wing paddle, for those of you who haven't
used one, is a paddle specialized for racing.  The blades are bent at a
slight, but weird twisted angle and the blade itself is shaped like a
scooped out airfoil.  They are great for making well executed forward
strokes.  They are terrible at sweep strokes, correction strokes or just
about any other kind of stroke.

I took my wing to the pool to see what it would be like to roll with a wing
paddle.  I was expecting it to be very difficult.  I was really surprised,
however, at what I found. You have to make sure the blade is oriented
correctly, but once that's taken care of, its incredibly easy to roll with
the wing paddle.  I found it almost like doing a paddle float roll -- it was
that easy.  

After I thougt about it for  a while, It kind of made sense that it would be
so much easier.  The wing paddle gives you an incredible bite into the
water.  Also, when sweeping across the water's surface, the lift component
points straight up and provides even more resistance to pulling the blade
down as you roll up.

So I'm not surprised you would find different paddles impacting how easy a
roll is.  Especially if you're like me and depend a bit too much on the
paddle during the roll (something I'm learning as I pathetically try to get
my hand roll).

--Tim


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From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] rolling (was AT Paddle)
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 09:29:12 -0500 (EST)
On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, Mattson, Timothy G wrote:

> I took my wing to the pool to see what it would be like to roll with a wing
> paddle.  I was expecting it to be very difficult.  I was really surprised,
> however, at what I found. You have to make sure the blade is oriented
> correctly, but once that's taken care of, its incredibly easy to roll with
> the wing paddle.  I found it almost like doing a paddle float roll -- it was
> that easy.  

I had the opposite experience.  I didn't feel good rolling with the wing, 
it seemed to be more picky than my other paddles.  I've also only rolled
with the wing 8 or 10 times, maybe with more practice.

> (something I'm learning as I pathetically try to get
> my hand roll).

Are you trying to hand roll a sea kayak or a whitewater boat?
I had an easy time hand rolling a whitewater boat (a dagger rpm) but my sea 
kayak hand roll is definitely an intermittent skill.

kirk
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From: Glyn Dickson <paddling_perfection_at_clear.net.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] RE: rolling (was AT Paddle)
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 98 13:01:10 PST
I have been paddling with wing paddles virtually exclusively for the last 
6 years. While initially requiring some changes in technique both for an 
efficient forward stroke, and for braces, familiarity almost invariably 
results in a strong desire to never ever use another flat blade. Indeed, I 
even had a 204cm paddle with sprint blades made up which I use 
whenever I hit the surf on our wild west coast here, with our little 8 foot 
surf yak.

For me the chief advantages of the wing are efficiency, particularly if 
you like going fast, grip on the water for accelleration when catching 
waves (bites like a Rottweiler on steroids!), and the action which to me 
is a more natural action in that the blade virtually requires no "steering" 
as you power on. For the amount of bite, they are also more forgiving in 
 strong winds which is important as i love paddling when it's blowing 
hard and there are lots of waves to chase.

They are relatively poor for some technical strokes such as at the tail 
end of a sweep stroke, or when trying to scull the paddle forwards 
however over time I have learned to scull up from a capsize, and pull 
off Dufeks while paddling polo boats. It all depends just what you wnat 
to do.

The final thing is that being a racing paddle, they are very light built in 
carbon which helps reduce fatigue. I still use my first wing paddle 
following racing, sea kayaking, touring and even racing through Grade 
1-2 whitewater (crunch go the rocks....) so they are well built.

Here in NZ, there are a growing number of paddlers sea kayaking with 
them, and even Paul Caffyn was rumoured to have recently been seen 
trying out some. Paul's current paddling partner uses then exclusively 
for his sea kayaking and in recent years they have done trips in NZ 
and also in Alaska, New Caledonia and Greenland together.

Glyn Dickson
Auckland
Paddling Perfection New Zealand
Finest Quality Hand Crafted kayaks
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