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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] LED lights
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:55:40 -0500
My 2 led devices are still going strong on their original set of batteries.
One since Friday night running on 2 D cells and the other since Sunday with
2 AAs. I am going to try a couple more using 2 AAAs and mount it in a PFD
signal light I just bought.


cya

Bob Denton 
Aqua-Gulf Transport
bdenton_at_aquagulf.com 
www.aquagulf.com <http://www.aquagulf.com> 


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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED lights
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 19:54:45 -0500
Very cool. Have you seen any white LEDs in your ventures?

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From:	owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
[mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net] On Behalf Of Bob Denton
Sent:	Thursday, January 21, 1999 5:56 PM
To:	Paddlewise (E-mail)
Subject:	[Paddlewise] LED lights

My 2 led devices are still going strong on their original set of batteries.
One since Friday night running on 2 D cells and the other since Sunday with
2 AAs. I am going to try a couple more using 2 AAAs and mount it in a PFD
signal light I just bought.


cya

Bob Denton
Aqua-Gulf Transport
bdenton_at_aquagulf.com
www.aquagulf.com <http://www.aquagulf.com>


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From: Tom... <gadfly_at_isomedia.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] My attempt at contacting "Seattle-ites..."
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 19:01:21 -0800
	Hi,

		A couple of days ago I made a "plea" of sorts to find someone in my
neighborhood willing to get me and my Pursuit to the water.  I wasn't
specific on *when* but I was interested in any help one might provide...  I
even pointed out that I would be more than willing [when the state, and my
bank account allow] to repay the favor.  There is no way that I can be any
more serious when I say that.:)

	Perhaps it was silly-heck, trusting me to be telling the truth
[though-that is what I have been-thruthful these past months on the list]
must be hard for those who may have the capacity to assist me...?  I don't
know.

	*I do know that my concept of time sometimes gets in the way of my
emotions nowadays and that really is the reason I am taking the risk of
making this post.*

	I know that I am more "competant" than I was in the fall-explained that in
my previous message.  I see my paddle in a corner in my bathroom many times
a day, go past my boat at least daily, and those sights remind me of days
long past...

	It's interesting to me that I recall much of the kayaking training I've
taken since moving out here-but it is some of the only things I remember.
Most of my time out here has been wiped away in surgery-STILL, it is
kayaking that sticks-perhaps that is because it was so important to learn,
in order to stay alive...

	I've "made-over" my homepage... directing it more toward TBI and my life
in it's regards... gone into more detail on how my choice of homes [an RV]
and activities [Wood working and KAYAKING] have been affected by it,  my
"progressive recovery" and how I percieve it affects my post-TBI life.  My
homepage goes into more detail about that...

	I told a friend [in regards to asking for help here] that I was afraid to
ask for help... you see I really feared that getting no response would be
more than I could, at the time bear...

	Now I find I can bear most anything-except complete isolation and I
wonder: Has my life situation made me somehow unsuitable as a paddling
partner?  OTOH, has my impatience, led me to offending potential new
friends-this I sincerely hope is not the case...

	It is my hope that this [humbling] "plea" of sorts, might at least
generate some mail that might at least help me to understand...or have
patience, or ???  Heck I don't know...

	This list has been very interesting, a foil to help me re-learn.  I hope
expressing some of my possibly... "ridiculous" concerns won't tarnish
whatever kind of reputation I have on the list...

	For those who have chosen to read to here, thankyou,

	Tom...




{ "Three left turns often make a right-The trick is surviving the attempts..."}
Kirkland, Wa.
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From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] LED lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:23:55 -0500
One reason LEDs run so long on batteries is they don't draw much power
(obviously), and one reason they don't draw much power is they don't put
out much light. The LEDs will probably be very hard to see from more than
100 ft. One or two lights probably won't provide much visiblity.

Now, if you had a whole string of them along the sheerline you would really
show up.
Nick

At 5:55 PM -0500 1/21/99, Bob Denton wrote:
>My 2 led devices are still going strong on their original set of batteries.
>One since Friday night running on 2 D cells and the other since Sunday with
>2 AAs. I am going to try a couple more using 2 AAAs and mount it in a PFD
>signal light I just bought.
>
>
>cya
>
>Bob Denton
>Aqua-Gulf Transport
>bdenton_at_aquagulf.com
>www.aquagulf.com <http://www.aquagulf.com>
>
>
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Nick Schade
Guillemot Kayaks
10 Ash Swamp Rd
Glastonbury, CT 06033
(860) 659-8847

Schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com
http://www.guillemot-kayaks.com/

>>>>"It's not just Art, It's a Craft!"<<<<


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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 11:22:01 -0500
Yes, they are out there but a bit more expensive then the orange which I am
using. I will be mail ordering a few soon and try some more tests.

cu

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Woodard [mailto:woodardr_at_tidalwave.net]
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 1999 7:55 PM
> To: Bob Denton; Paddlewise (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED lights
> 
> 
> Very cool. Have you seen any white LEDs in your ventures?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net] On Behalf Of Bob Denton
> Sent:	Thursday, January 21, 1999 5:56 PM
> To:	Paddlewise (E-mail)
> Subject:	[Paddlewise] LED lights
> 
>
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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:09:43 -0500
Wrong Wrong Wrong Wrong! 

The LEDs that I am playing with are 1.2 (12000 MCDs) and .5 (5000 MCDs)
candle power. They are bright enough to read with and in tests on the water
at night are visible for at least 500 yards. The LEDs you are referring to
typically put out between 50 and 350 MCDs.

I am going to try some trials this weekend to see what the maximum range
will be with an LED mounted in a Vortec head lamp and another mounted in an
$8 clip on PFD light (1 Dcell type converted to 2 AAs.) My guess is
visibility on a dark night will be 1/2 mile.

There are supposed to be new White LEDs that go as high as 4 candle power
that are available. 

, and one reason they don't draw much power is 
> they don't put
> out much light. The LEDs will probably be very hard to see 
> from more than
> 100 ft. One or two lights probably won't provide much visibility.
> 
> Now, if you had a whole string of them along the sheerline 
> you would really
> show up.
> Nick
> 
> At 5:55 PM -0500 1/21/99, Bob Denton wrote:
> >My 2 led devices are still going strong on their original 
> set of batteries.
> >One since Friday night running on 2 D cells and the other 
> since Sunday with
> >2 AAs. I am going to try a couple more using 2 AAAs and 
> mount it in a PFD
> >signal light I just bought.
>
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