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From: Dickson, Dana A. <dana.dickson_at_unisys.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:04:23 -0600
I modified a Pelican clip on headlight (2AA) to use a green LED as a light
source.  It is intended as a skulking light as well as a long lasting
flashlight.  I found the LED at Radio Shack, the light gives enough
illumination to see for walking in the woods and on the rocks of the North
Shore of Lake Superior.  I observed that the LED was quite visible for
several hundred yards as an unnaturally bright and small green dot.
Multiple LEDs would work well as a signal marker, see the flashing LED bike
lights for an example, a single LED is not likely to give off enough light
to be useful as a safety signal.

Dana Dickson 


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From: Nick Schade <schade_at_guillemot-kayaks.com>
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] LED lights

One reason LEDs run so long on batteries is they don't draw much power
(obviously), and one reason they don't draw much power is they don't put
out much light. The LEDs will probably be very hard to see from more than
100 ft. One or two lights probably won't provide much visiblity.

Now, if you had a whole string of them along the sheerline you would really
show up.


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From: Product Information Department <pid_at_mec.ca>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 10:31:53 -0800
At 12:04 PM 1/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I modified a Pelican clip on headlight (2AA) to use a green LED as a light
>source.  It is intended as a skulking light as well as a long lasting
>flashlight.  I found the LED at Radio Shack, the light gives enough
>illumination to see for walking in the woods and on the rocks of the North
>Shore of Lake Superior.  I observed that the LED was quite visible for
>several hundred yards as an unnaturally bright and small green dot.
>Multiple LEDs would work well as a signal marker, see the flashing LED bike
>lights for an example, a single LED is not likely to give off enough light
>to be useful as a safety signal.
>
>Dana Dickson 

Hi Dana,
I think the newer, more powerful LEDs have great potential as kayak
"running lights". I don't think I'd want a single green LED as people might
think this was my starboard running light. And though the rules differ for
inland and open ocean waters, I think many people would interpret a rapid
flashing light as a distress signal (and a slow flashing light as a buoy:-)
Philip T.
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employer, or indeed, of any sentient being."
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From: Michael Daly <mikedaly_at_interlog.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] LED Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 16:15:21 -0500
Product Information Department wrote:

> And though the rules differ for
> inland and open ocean waters, I think many people would interpret a rapid
> flashing light as a distress signal (and a slow flashing light as a buoy:-)

To expand on this, I have been told it is illegal to use a flashing light
on the Great Lakes for any purpose other than an emergency.
(BTW, how does one differentiate a flashing emergency beacon from a
steady flashing buoy? My strobe isnt that rapid.  Buoys with irregular
flash sequences are obvious, but...)

Colorado Kayak, in their catalogue, suggest using a flashing light
to mark your campsite during evening paddles.  Not recommended
in the Great Lakes.

Mike


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From: Dickson, Dana A. <dana.dickson_at_unisys.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:25:43 -0600
Philip,

I agree with all your points.  I have used green and red multi LED bike
lights, in a non-flashing mode, as running lights on my kayak.  These lights
were in addition to the white lights on our heads.  USCG regulations for
kayakers can be met with a flashlight that can be used for signalling.  We
added continuous lights for warning and ended up attracting a large power
fishng launch.  I think the operator wanted to see what was going on with
the odd lights on the water.  He did not seem to appreciate our efforts; he
called out on his PA system that we should meet power boat lighting
requirements or get off of the lake.

Dana Dickson 

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From: pid_at_mec.ca [mailto:pid_at_mec.ca]
Sent: Friday, January 22, 1999 12:32 PM
To: Dickson, Dana A.
Cc: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED Lights

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Hi Dana,
I think the newer, more powerful LEDs have great potential as kayak
"running lights". I don't think I'd want a single green LED as people might
think this was my starboard running light. And though the rules differ for
inland and open ocean waters, I think many people would interpret a rapid
flashing light as a distress signal (and a slow flashing light as a buoy:-)
Philip T.

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 14:39:25 -0500
If you still have the package you'll discover that this LED is probably only
a couple of hundred MCDs. The Super Brights are considerably bigger as well
and tend to disperse the light better, especially with a lens and reflector.

cu

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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] LED Lights
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 18:03:41 -0500
If you can speed up the flashing of the LEDs to 60 pulses or more per
minute, they appear steady and increase battery life.

cya
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