Hello List, Ralph Diaz, Alex Ferguson and, perhaps, others have recently discussed alternatives to the common "sliding" rudder pedal set-up. I am interested in learning more about alternate pedal installation designs (ie, ala aircraft rudder pedals) and I have a question. Do the designs that have you pivoting the pedal give you enough travel to let the rudder hit the stops on each direction? It would seem to me that the sliding design gives a lot of travel and that with the pivoting design, you might need to have some actuation amplification. Is this true? Bill Leonhardt *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
[BL] > discussed alternatives to the common "sliding" rudder > pedal set-up. I am interested in learning more about > alternate pedal installation designs (ie, ala aircraft > rudder pedals) and I have a question. Do the designs > that have you pivoting the pedal give you enough travel > to let the rudder hit the stops on each direction? Yes, plenty and if your setup didn't, then all you need to do is redrill the attachment points on the rudder and refit the rudder lines closer in to the pivot point. > It would seem to me that the sliding design gives > a lot of travel and that with the pivoting design, you might need to have > some actuation amplification. Is this true? As the pedals are a great deal larger (mine are) than the rudder pivot to line attachment point, the rudder moves a great deal more than the pedals. If too much, fit the lines further down (closer to the pivot point) on the pedals. Alex -- ---------------------------------------------------- Alex Ferguson a.ferguson_at_chem.canterbury.ac.nz Electronics Workshop, Chem Dept, Univ of Canterbury Christchurch, New Zealand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bill Leonhardt wrote: > > Hello List, > > Ralph Diaz, Alex Ferguson and, perhaps, others have recently discussed > alternatives to the common "sliding" rudder pedal set-up. I am interested > in learning more about alternate pedal installation designs (ie, ala > aircraft rudder pedals) and I have a question. Do the designs that have > you pivoting the pedal give you enough travel to let the rudder hit the > stops on each direction? It would seem to me that the sliding design gives > a lot of travel and that with the pivoting design, you might need to have > some actuation amplification. Is this true? > > Bill Leonhardt > Klepper rudder pedals are of non-travel kind, i.e. they pivot on a base, and they give full range to the rudder. The Klepper rudder itself is enormous and runs almost horizontal to the water's surface. So cranking it around side to side is quite a large arc. So if the Klepper pedals can do this, I can't imagine that other pivoting types would not be able to have a full rudder range as well. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bill, et al: That is precisely the problem, in my opinion, with sliding rudder controls - they give you too much travel if you are the type of person that likes fairly solid bracing for feet and knees/thighs. Pivoting peddals give the best of both worlds, and the amount of travel needed for a *well designed rudder* is minimal. Doug Lloyd Victoria BC >Hello List, > >Ralph Diaz, Alex Ferguson and, perhaps, others have recently discussed >alternatives to the common "sliding" rudder pedal set-up. I am interested >in learning more about alternate pedal installation designs (ie, ala >aircraft rudder pedals) and I have a question. Do the designs that have >you pivoting the pedal give you enough travel to let the rudder hit the >stops on each direction? It would seem to me that the sliding design gives >a lot of travel and that with the pivoting design, you might need to have >some actuation amplification. Is this true? > >Bill Leonhardt >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ >*************************************************************************** > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Bill Leonhardt wrote: > Do the designs that have > you pivoting the pedal give you enough travel to let the rudder hit the > stops on each direction? It would seem to me that the sliding design gives > a lot of travel and that with the pivoting design, you might need to have > some actuation amplification. Is this true? My Seaward pedals (retrofit in my CD Solstice) give enough travel to turn the rudder stop to stop. However, you may not need that much travel. Too much turn and the rudder stalls, rendering it less effective. Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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