Re: [Paddlewise] a thought on rescues

> >Thats certainly an accomodation for this shortcoming, and I often
> >wear a full dive skin anyway.   But it is a problem that does not
> >exist in the SINK.   The less skin surface area I have exposed to
> >the ocean and sun, the better I feel.
> 
> Many feel that way. Since one can cover up anyway it seems that how one
> does it reflects personal prefernce not any inherent advantage or
> disadvantage of a type.

Certainly agreed; its all personal preference; my personal 
preference is to be covered and protected by the hull as opposed to 
relying on clothing.

> >Yes, there are special SOT's which can do neet things.  Surf skis
> >are another specialized SOT example.    I'm not particularly
> >interested in such comparisons, as I'm not likely to buy a Tsunami
> >or a surf ski.   To be honest, I need to see the specs for the
> >Tsunami before I could say anything about its usefulness for the
> >various things that I do from a kayak...  I know the surf ski would
> >do some of my tricks very well, but others it would suck big time.
> 
> Failed to make myself clear. The point I tried to make had to do with how
> an SOT could be fitted to do hoild you in the boat. There is nothing
> inherent in teh SOT concept that prohibits such rigging. Not sure how one
> determines that a boat won't do something without having tried it.

Right.  "Could be fitted to..."   That just seems wierd to me.   
SOT's seem designed for easy-on easy-off, high stability uses.  
They are used extensively around here for crossing between 
wadefishing spots.  If you are going to do "could be fitted to" in 
order to give it similar characteristics to a SINK, then why not get 
the SINK to begin with.   Not to say that there is anything wrong 
with getting the SOT; but rather if the persons preference is for 
SINK features, maybe they should get a SINK.  If their preferece is 
for SOT features, maybe they should get a SOT.

For what its worth, you could rig a SINK to behave like a SOT.  
Some solid foam here, a little cutting there, some ballast... walla 
SOT.  Not sure what would be gained over just starting out with a 
SOT in the first place....

> >I need to be able to store a 60" x 5"x 2" object and be able to
> >remove it from the boat while still sitting .   I know of no SOT
> >currently made which will handle such a task.  The typical solution
> >is to secure such a thing on deck; and most people are
> >comfortable enough with that fix.  I'm not.
> 
> Failed to make myself clear again. I tried to point out that an SOT with
> that kind of storage could be built not that one existed.

My point was that there wouldn't be a market for such a feature, 
and so no manufacturer would waste their money trying to make 
one.

> >This all seems like ways of taking the wrong tool and jury-rigging it in
> >order to do the same tasks as the correct tool is able to do by original
> >design.
> 
> Please define what the correct tool does and its characteristics and then
> we can discuss how an SOT can be designed to accomplish those task plus
> provdie added safety, ease of boarding etc.

The correct tool protects you from sun'n'sea, encloses all gear, 
holds you firmly attached to the boat, and lets you dangle upside 
down as comfortably as right side up.

As to boarding, having done both, the SINK is essentially the same 
as the SOT.  I don't usually get to stand next to the boat in the 
water, because the bottom is simply to soft.  I often have the boat 
floating, and step into it from the launch or ramp.   Seal launching 
is also fairly easy if somewhat tiring in the SINK.  I suppose a SOT 
again, could be rigged to make seal launching possible... 

> You must not be a lawyer.
nope, and don't play one on TV either.

> >The only way people die in kayaks down here is from being
> >seperated from their boat.   This seems more likely to occur in a
> >SOT.
> 
> Why?

Because most folks riding on SOT's aren't attached to the boat.  
Not that the boats couldn't be so rigged, but the fact that they are 
NOT so rigged being the operative word here.

> > How bout just pee over the side, we are talking OCEAN here; not
> > some delicate river system.
> 
> AH yes, I notice you are from Texas. ;-) In Canada we aren't so well
> endowed. In fact, even our women can't manage it. Damn I wish I were a
> Texan.:-)

Endowment my butt.  Try arching your back, and aim carefully.
Women have it pretty bad though in this particular department.


Richard Walker
Houston, TX
http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html
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