Larry wrote, > My major limitation is that I have no place to store >boats, so I guess I'm going to have to move. :-) I'm down to a basic >aluminum canoe - but when I buy the yak I will store it in the living room >if I have to. At one time I stored my two kayaks and my canoe in the living room of a one bedroom apt. Not recommended if you want to ever have friends (non-paddling) over. Ralph will probably jump on your email also, but have you considered getting a folding boat? It would certainly solve your storage problems. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I live in a 2 br town home. Right now there is an Anas Acuta and two WW boats hanging from the ceiling in the living/family/dining room. In the past 10 years, in 2 different (small) town homes, there have been no less than two and sometimes as many as four sea kayaks hanging from the ceiling at any given time. Takes a bit of jockeying to get them in and out, but it works. Dave Seng wrote: > > Larry wrote, > > > My major limitation is that I have no place to store > >boats, so I guess I'm going to have to move. :-) I'm down to a basic > >aluminum canoe - but when I buy the yak I will store it in the living room > >if I have to. > > At one time I stored my two kayaks and my canoe in the living room of a one > bedroom apt. Not recommended if you want to ever have friends > (non-paddling) over. Ralph will probably jump on your email also, but have > you considered getting a folding boat? It would certainly solve your > storage problems. > > Dave Seng > Juneau, Alaska > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** -- Mike Hughes Arch Curmudgeon "For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the protected never know." USMC 65-68 Mailto:mike.hughes_at_pressroom.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I live in Houston... and in a townhome with two Eddyline Falcon 18's hanging on the wall. No one is going to steal our boats unless they (1) figure out the gate code (2) come through the front door... and (3) fight their way through the "killer Akita" waiting on the inside...and if that doesn't stop them, after all the commotion, they'll (4) have to cart the boats out through the court yard in front of all the neighbors. Besides, I kinda like the boats in the living room. Robert *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Dave Seng wrote: > > Larry wrote, > > > I'm down to a basic > > aluminum canoe - but when I buy the yak I will store it in the > > living room if I have to. > > At one time I stored my two kayaks and my canoe in the living room of a one > bedroom apt. I've usually had places to store boats, but one winter I built a rigid Folboat (skin on frame, nonfolding) in my living room. Fortunately, I didn't have carpeting. Steve -- Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes, you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I prefer a living room in the boat. :-) But that is getting out of kayaks. michael rcline_at_onramp.net wrote: > Besides, I kinda like the boats in the living room. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> Larry wrote, > > > My major limitation is that I have no place to store > >boats, so I guess I'm going to have to move. :-) I'm down to a basic > >aluminum canoe - but when I buy the yak I will store it in the living room > >if I have to. Larry Just wanted to let you know [as some others have on the list already] you won't be alone with the yak-in-the-living-room arrangement. My brother -- a doc in Fort Myers FL -- stores his yellow 16' 10'' Current Designs Gufstream in his living room on a wooden rack he built. Fact is -- I think it looks great in there! I'd have mine -- a 17' 7" Solstice ST -- suspended from the ceiling in my bedroom, but I couldn't get it to fit -- no matter how I tried to angle it. I guess I don't have to tell you the neighbors thought I was nuts when they spotted that boat -- half out of my bedroom window! I wound up having to build a canvas-covered A-frame structure to store both of mine and three others, if needed! Heck -- if you lived near here -- I'd let you put yours in there too!!! Anyhow -- don't forget to keep those coasters at arm's length! Sure wouldn't want any Kool Aid or beer rings on that new yak of yours now would we?!? <<grin>> Cheers! Jim Tynan Pike Road AL *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Larry wrote, > > > > > My major limitation is that I have no place to store > > >boats, so I guess I'm going to have to move. :-) I'm down to a basic > > >aluminum canoe - but when I buy the yak I will store it in the living > room > > >if I have to. Others have chimed in with encouragement -- let me add my experience. I lived in a smallish townhouse for several years, and to keep the "living room" floor clear of boats, resorted to the following: Two 8-foot clear fir 2 x 4's, fitted with plywood-gusset-reinforced, carpet-covered 27-inch arms, at 90 degrees to the vertical supports. (Had room for three of these arms, but only needed two sets at the time.) Lag-screwed to studs in the wall, **right through the sheetrock** at the top and bottom of the 2 x 4's. Bombproof. Esthetic (in a bachelor-pad kind of way). Cheap. Drawback: demands a seventeen-foot wall! When I moved out, I just spackled up the lag screw holes and no one was the wiser. It is critical that you hit the studs squarely. A rip-out would be an expensive embarrassment! Since that time, I moved in with my SO, and found a buddy who let me construct an 8' x 8' x 20' heated storage unit at his place, where the 4 yaks now reside -- and the supports described above went along for the ride. Still bombproof! -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Surprise!!! I bet you saw my name as the sender of this email and guessed I was going to bring up all the virtues of compact, easy storage of a folding kayak. I bet you are expecting me to carry on about how I have had as many as four kayaks in my New York apartment but nobody was the wiser because they were all bagged and sitting in closets and behind furniture. But I am not going to do any of that. Well, at least not directly. The most interesting set-up I have seen for storing a kayak indoors was that for an assembled Klepper double. Gail Ferris who now lives in Greenland used to be a fixture in the New England kayaking community while living in Connecticut. Her small home was just a few hundred feet from the water and so she kept her folding kayaks assembled inside her home. The double Klepper was setup on its wheeled cart with the stern end into the front entrance vestibule to the house. That way she could easily wheel it out (she used the kitchen door for everyday entering and exiting needs). The rest of the boat went along one end wall of the 10 to 12 foot wide living room and into the bathroom through a doorway from which the door had been removed and a curtain hung over for privacy. Normal use of the bathroom was through a door from the kitchen area. (Here single Klepper was up on webbing straps hanging from the ceiling above the double Klepper but being only 15 feet long did not extend as far as the bathroom.) I stayed at her place on several occasions when interviewing her for an article and doing some paddling in the Thimble Islands which were right across from her put in. The boat worked well in the bathroom. I was able to use the front deck of the Klepper to throw all my clothes on when showering. And when sitting on the throne, instead of reading catalogs I could let my mind wander off in contemplation of the long history of accomplishment of folding kayaks with one staring me in the face. :-) ralph diaz ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
The living room is a great place to store a boat!! I had one in my living room for years and it was a great conversation piece plus I had to make sure the bathtub ring was always cleaned up and the boat was at it's most presentable.. Especially when my mother was coming to visit. :-) Now I have a few boats in my garage, and a few bicycles. (Hey, my mom even helped me build the racks.) I am looking for a new boat, kevlar. Guess where it will have to live (the garage is full!)? Yep, in my living room. I have the spot all ready. Oh, another plus, if you leave the cockpit cover on, the cat loves to nap there. :-) One additional piece of advice though, beware of lamps. Alice > > Larry wrote, > > > > > My major limitation is that I have no place to store > > >boats, so I guess I'm going to have to move. :-) I'm down to a basic > > >aluminum canoe - but when I buy the yak I will store it in the living > room > > >if I have to. > > Larry > > Just wanted to let you know [as some others have on the list already] you > won't be alone with the yak-in-the-living-room arrangement. My brother -- a > doc in Fort Myers FL -- stores his yellow 16' 10'' Current Designs Gufstream > in his living room on a wooden rack he built. Fact is -- I think it looks > great in there! I'd have mine -- a 17' 7" Solstice ST -- suspended from the > ceiling in my bedroom, but I couldn't get it to fit -- no matter how I tried > to angle it. I guess I don't have to tell you the neighbors thought I was > nuts when they spotted that boat -- half out of my bedroom window! I wound > up having to build a canvas-covered A-frame structure to store both of mine > and three others, if needed! Heck -- if you lived near here -- I'd let you > put yours in there too!!! > > Anyhow -- don't forget to keep those coasters at arm's length! Sure > wouldn't want any Kool Aid or beer rings on that new yak of yours now would > we?!? <<grin>> > > Cheers! > > Jim Tynan > Pike Road AL *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Thanks for all the suggestions about boat storage, but what was really going through my mind when I made the comment was that "if I had a bigger garage, I'd have about six boats". I've stashed boats at friends places, but they've gotten married and moved, or gotten divorced and moved, or just moved, so I lost my storage spaces. I have room for one canoe in my garage, but will find a way to hang a kayak when I get it. Thinking about all the responses I unintentionally generated (you folks sure know how to send someone back to lurking :-) ), I finally realized that I'm jealous of you folks in warmer climates. No, I actually LIKE winter -- if you've never snowshoed or skied in the woods after a fresh snowfall on a crisp morning, you don't know how incredibly beautiful and how much fun winter can be. What I'm jealous about is the fact that I'm old and crotchety (sp?) enough that I am not going to scrape frost off the Jeep at 5:30 in the morning at 15 below during the winter. So the garage is used for car storage. Therefore, I'm jealous of warmer climates because you folks can leave the car outside and use your garage for a more useful purpose ....... to store TOYS. Larry Snow Minneapolis and, believe it or not, we are having a thundershower in February P.S. Is our "List-Mom" going to provide a bio? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
At 06:47 AM 2/11/99 -0600, Larry Snow wrote: >So the garage is used for car storage. >Therefore, I'm jealous of warmer climates because you folks can leave the >car outside and use your garage for a more useful purpose ....... to store >TOYS. Garage?!? Car storage??!?? So that's what it's for! I had to shovel and scrape 'bout a foot of snow of the ol' Subaru this morning, but all the TOYS are snug -n- warm! Priorities are priorities after all! :-) Come to think of it, I do recall m'lady joking about keeping her MR2 in the garage; guess I'll have to get her a tarp for valentines day . . . And you girls think that men are insensitive, sheesh! ;^> ByeBye! Steve J. PS: We keep a little Blackhawk solo boat hanging from the railing of the loft above our living room just 'cause it's so pretty. Judys idea, not mine! We've actually even gotten positive comments from non-boating friends. S. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Steve Jernigan wrote: > > PS: We keep a little Blackhawk solo boat hanging from the railing of the > loft above our living room just 'cause it's so pretty. Judys idea, not > mine! We've actually even gotten positive comments from non-boating > friends. S. > Do you think Judy could have a word with my wife? I've got a 1972 Munich Olympic Slalom boat that would look great on a big empty wall in the living room, and she won't hear of it. Imagine. Steve -- Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes, you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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