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From: Karl Coplan <kcoplan_at_Genesis.law.pace.edu>
subject: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales
Date: Tue Feb 9 07:24:52 1999
Rene Milo wrote that he is looking for east coast whales . . .

You're best bet may be off of Provincetown, Cape Cod.  There is an 
area called Stellwagen Bank that starts around 10 nm north of 
Provincetown in the Atlantic  Ocean where all the humpbacks and finbacks 
congregate to feed on the krill being stirred up by the tide.  
Stellwagen Bank strertches for about 40 -50 miles north.

We were there last summer in our sailboat and saw around half a dozen 
whales, and about a dozen whale watching boats.

I am not sure I'd want to be out there in a sea kayak though (given 
my own fitness and skill level) -- the 
area is basically open ocean and far from land.  You'd have to be a 
strong paddler with very good navigation skills and confidence in 
open ocean paddling.  Just to get to the edge of the banks will be a 
20 nm round trip, and there is no guarantee that the whales will be 
there at the closest edge of the banks.  You'll need a GPS to be sure 
you are on the banks.

There are certainly other places on the East Coast where whales are 
routinely spotted closer to shore, but these places are more hit or 
miss.  Stellwagen Bank is one place that ou can be practically 
certain to see whales if you get out there.

Good Luck!


Professor Karl S. Coplan
Pace Environmental Litigation Clinic, Inc.
78 North Broadway
White Plains, N.Y.  10603
kcoplan_at_genesis.law.pace.edu
(914) 422-4343
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From: Rene Milo <rmilo_at_ibm.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 10:31:52 -0500
Hmm, sounds a little tough, but thanks for the suggestion.  Another
paddlewiser suggested the St. Lawrence near Quebec in August.
http://www.gorp.com/caribouexp/
Last year, someone whose name I don't remember suggested Newfoundland in
June, but I don't have any specifics.

Any more?
Milo
Poughkeepsie, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Karl Coplan <kcoplan_at_Genesis.law.pace.edu>
To: paddlewise <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>; Rene Milo <rmilo_at_ibm.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 10:23 AM
Subject: East Coast Whales


Rene Milo wrote that he is looking for east coast whales . . .

You're best bet may be off of Provincetown, Cape Cod.  <snipped>


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From: Dan Volker <dlv_at_gate.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 12:08:41 -0500
Actually, Off of Palm Beach florida, between 1000 feet deep and 3000 feet
deep, there is supposed to be the world's 2nd largest group of sperm whales.
Thats about 3.5 to 4.5 miles offshore of the Island of Palm Beach. And
kayaking out there is routine for blue water freedivers. I will say, I have
not seen sperm whales while freediving, but I don't paddle that far out into
the blue water--it is only necessary to get out about 2 to 3 miles for
bluewater freediving.
Dan Volker


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From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
[mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Karl Coplan
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 5:25 AM
To: paddlewise; Rene Milo
Subject: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales


Rene Milo wrote that he is looking for east coast whales . . .

You're best bet may be off of Provincetown, Cape Cod.  There is an
area called Stellwagen Bank that starts around 10 nm north of
Provincetown in the Atlantic  Ocean where all the humpbacks and finbacks
congregate to feed on the krill being stirred up by the tide.
Stellwagen Bank strertches for about 40 -50 miles north.

We were there last summer in our sailboat and saw around half a dozen
whales, and about a dozen whale watching boats.

I am not sure I'd want to be out there in a sea kayak though (given
my own fitness and skill level) -- the
area is basically open ocean and far from land.  You'd have to be a
strong paddler with very good navigation skills and confidence in
open ocean paddling.  Just to get to the edge of the banks will be a
20 nm round trip, and there is no guarantee that the whales will be
there at the closest edge of the banks.  You'll need a GPS to be sure
you are on the banks.

There are certainly other places on the East Coast where whales are
routinely spotted closer to shore, but these places are more hit or
miss.  Stellwagen Bank is one place that ou can be practically
certain to see whales if you get out there.

Good Luck!


Professor Karl S. Coplan
Pace Environmental Litigation Clinic, Inc.
78 North Broadway
White Plains, N.Y.  10603
kcoplan_at_genesis.law.pace.edu
(914) 422-4343
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From: Rene Milo <rmilo_at_ibm.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 13:09:00 -0500
Well, I don't mind the 2 miles out, but it is going to be real interesting
trying to get my kayak to go 1000 feet down!  :-)  Sounds good for divers,
however.

Milo
Poughkeepsie, NY

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From: Dan Volker <dlv_at_gate.net>
To: Karl Coplan <kcoplan_at_Genesis.law.pace.edu>; paddlewise
<paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>; Rene Milo <rmilo_at_ibm.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales


>Actually, Off of Palm Beach florida, between 1000 feet deep and 3000 feet
>deep, there is supposed to be the world's 2nd largest group of sperm
whales.
>Thats about 3.5 to 4.5 miles offshore of the Island of Palm Beach. And
>kayaking out there is routine for blue water freedivers. I will say, I have
>not seen sperm whales while freediving, but I don't paddle that far out
into
>the blue water--it is only necessary to get out about 2 to 3 miles for
>bluewater freediving.
>Dan Volker



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From: Dan Volker <dlv_at_gate.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:22:47 -0500
Maybe if you camoflage it to look like a large squid, one of the sperm
whales will help you :-)
Dan

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From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
[mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net]On Behalf Of Rene Milo
Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 1:09 PM
To: paddlewise
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales


Well, I don't mind the 2 miles out, but it is going to be real interesting
trying to get my kayak to go 1000 feet down!  :-)  Sounds good for divers,
however.

Milo
Poughkeepsie, NY

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Volker <dlv_at_gate.net>
To: Karl Coplan <kcoplan_at_Genesis.law.pace.edu>; paddlewise
<paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>; Rene Milo <rmilo_at_ibm.net>
Date: Tuesday, February 09, 1999 12:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales


>Actually, Off of Palm Beach florida, between 1000 feet deep and 3000 feet
>deep, there is supposed to be the world's 2nd largest group of sperm
whales.
>Thats about 3.5 to 4.5 miles offshore of the Island of Palm Beach. And
>kayaking out there is routine for blue water freedivers. I will say, I have
>not seen sperm whales while freediving, but I don't paddle that far out
into
>the blue water--it is only necessary to get out about 2 to 3 miles for
>bluewater freediving.
>Dan Volker



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From: <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:15:40 -0500
Well, I don't mind the 2 miles out, but it is going to be real interesting
trying to get my kayak to go 1000 feet down!  :-)  Sounds good for divers,
however.
-------------------------------------------

Nah, just have to load up on Canadian Ballast Rocks(tm).  But the PFD
likely chafes going down.

Later...
Dan


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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] East Coast Whales
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 15:24:27 -0500
        I've seen them in the St. Lawrence in the wider part around, say,
Saguenay Fjord.  Also off Bar Harbor in Maine but you have to go a long way
out, maybe too much for a SK on a daytrip.
        I have also seen them close to shore around Tangier, Nova
cotia.  --A Fin Whale, even.
JP

-----Original Message-----
From: Rene Milo <rmilo_at_ibm.net>
>
>Any more?
>Milo
>Poughkeepsie, NY


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