I have it on good authority that John Winters is the invention of Dr. Inverbon and not the other way around. It has been clear all along. The clue was in the choice of last name. In a hurry to create a fictitious character and wishing to place him in a northern setting, Winter or Winters was a quick easy choice for a name. He could have used Snow as a last name but then that may have gotten people thinking that what Dr. Inverbon was saying through his character was a snow job. If Dr. Inverbon had wanted to set his character in California he might have called him John Sunshine or in New York City, John Macadamia (as in the nut). ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Ralph wrote; >I have it on good authority that John Winters is the invention of Dr. >Inverbon and not the other way around. It has been clear all along. >The clue was in the choice of last name. (SNIP) How sad when professional jealousy bubbles to the surface of the E-Mail swamp. Neither Dr. Inverbon or I are fictions. Both of us are frequent speakers at sea kayaking a canoeing symposiums here in Canada and thousands of paddlers know us. Were it not for various false accusations made against Dr. Inverbon by the CIA and the Republican Party regarding alleged sexual deviance in the White House, even Americans would be beneficiary to his knowledge. Dr, Inverbon does not smoke cigars nor does he use them to impress young girls. As for myself, " I have preached the truth without making any distinction between exoteric and esoteric doctrine: for in respect for truths, Ananda, the Tathagata has no such thing as the closed fist of a teacher who keeps some things back." As Dryden said, "Jealousy, (is) the jaundice of the soul" Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Ralph wrote; > >I have it on good authority that John Winters is the invention of Dr. > >Inverbon and not the other way around. It has been clear all along. > >The clue was in the choice of last name. (SNIP) To which Mr. Winters responded: > How sad when professional jealousy bubbles to the surface of the E-Mail > swamp. > > Neither Dr. Inverbon or I are fictions. ...<snip>... Hmmm. I suppose that it is time that I speak up and share with the group an incident that is relevant to this discussion. Last winter, while I was in Ottawa (offering advice to the Canadian government), I wandered away from Parliament Hill, across the bridge spanning the Ottawa River, and over to the Canadian Museum of Civilization (or Musee Canadien Des Civilisations, if you prefer). I was drawn immediately to the "Wave Eaters" exhibition, which contained many fine examples of native watercraft. Standing in front of one of the exhibited boats was a "robust" gentleman expounding on the evolution of Inuit culture (or cultures, to more more precise). The speaker had captured everyone's attention, in part because his rather odd mannerisms of speech, which were at the same time both fascinating and repulsive. His manner of speech and extensive knowledge of Inuit cultural development left me with an eerie feeling of familiarity, and then it struck me where I had I "heard" this voice before. I thus approached the gentleman and said "Dr. Inverbon, I presume!" After some initial confusion as to whether I was a former student whom he had somehow managed to forget, I explained that I was familiar with his work not from any first-hand exposure to his teachings, but rather as the result of the Internet postings of his "humble servant", John Winters. Hearing this, he became incensed, and began a long diatribe laced with vitriol. His face glowing red, words such as "scoundrel", "impostor", and "plagiarist" flowed from his mouth, mixing with the spittle that was by this time showering those who were standing close by. Feeling the need to defend the honor of a fellow Paddlewiser, I immediately jumped into the fray, demanding that he back up his outrageous claims with some proof that he is who he claims to be and that Mr. Winters is in fact misrepresenting the nature of their intellectual relationship. He said that he would be happy to provide all the proof that I need, on the spot! But just as he was beginning to offer this proof, a group of workmen who were in the process of moving a Haida war canoe stumbled, and as they attempted unsuccessfully to regain their balance the canoe swung around, striking "Dr. Inverbon" squarely on the temple. He was rushed to the hospital, and I was never to see Dr. Inverbon (or whoever he was) again. So where does the truth lie? Does Dr. Inverbon exist? And if so, is John Winters misrepresenting the nature of their relationship? At this point I cannot say. I know only that there appears some controversy regarding Mr. Winter's claims, and that the truth shall not remain hidden forever. "Magna est veritas, et prevalaet." (Great is the truth, and it shall prevail.) Dan Hagen Bellingham, Washington *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
John Winters wrote: > > Ralph wrote; > > >I have it on good authority that John Winters is the invention of Dr. > >Inverbon and not the other way around. It has been clear all along. > >The clue was in the choice of last name. (SNIP) > > How sad when professional jealousy bubbles to the surface of the E-Mail > swamp. Of course I am jealous of split personalities. I barely have even one personality myself, so I am told. :-) BTW, newcomers to this list server: This kind of interchange happens every year at about this time in the off-season. Please don't call in the little guys in white coats. ralph diaz -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralph Diaz . . . Folding Kayaker newsletter PO Box 0754, New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212-724-5069; E-mail: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com "Where's your sea kayak?"----"It's in the bag." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Has any one ever seen Dr. Peregrine Inverbon and John Winters at the same place and time???? Makes you wonder!!!!!! Maybe neither are real. Dana At 04:03 PM 2/14/99 -0500, wrote: >Ralph wrote; > > >>I have it on good authority that John Winters is the invention of Dr. >>Inverbon and not the other way around. It has been clear all along. >>The clue was in the choice of last name. (SNIP) > >How sad when professional jealousy bubbles to the surface of the E-Mail >swamp. > >Neither Dr. Inverbon or I are fictions. Both of us are frequent speakers at >sea kayaking a canoeing symposiums here in Canada and thousands of paddlers >know us. > >Were it not for various false accusations made against Dr. Inverbon by the >CIA and the Republican Party regarding alleged sexual deviance in the White >House, even Americans would be beneficiary to his knowledge. Dr, Inverbon >does not smoke cigars nor does he use them to impress young girls. > >As for myself, " I have preached the truth without making any distinction >between exoteric and esoteric doctrine: for in respect for truths, Ananda, >the Tathagata has no such thing as the closed fist of a teacher who keeps >some things back." > >As Dryden said, "Jealousy, (is) the jaundice of the soul" > >Cheers, >John Winters >Redwing Designs >Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft >http://home.ican.net/~735769/ > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>From Dan, <big snip> "Magna est veritas, et prevalaet." (Great is the truth, and it shall prevail.) ========= It seems that Perigrine is a woman! Without truly knowing who she is, http://www.ozcraft.com/scifidu/peregrin.html cu bliven *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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