Not sure where this thread got started --- just seemed to appear in full bloom in my mailbox --- but I'd like to make a comment or two. We are a litigious society as Julio pointed out --- at least here in the U.S. McDonald's cups of coffee will burn us and kayaks will kill us, so both have disclaimers written on them. But I don't recall expecting to be taught to drive by Mr. Nissan or Mr. Ford. Those guys build cars --- other people run the driver ed programs. Some kayaking retailers go a lot further than they need to to ensure that their buyers understand that there are support groups out there which can help in training and safety --- SpringRiver here in the Baltimore-Washington area is a good example of interactive retailers --- but others don't. REI rented a bunch of sea kayaks to some "newbies" on a "beginner" trip which we in the Chesapeake Paddler Association (CPA) ran a few years back, and sent the rentals out without paddle floats. As a backup trip leader, I was pissed, told REI about it in a letter, and got a very positive letter back from the area VP, totally agreeing that they should provide floats, and pledging to do so from then on. People learn. I guess I don't agree with Woody's assumption that Chris or Nick or whoever sold him his kit also was obliged to provide safety and operational training any more than I'd fault Subaru for not teaching me to drive. It's not part of the deal. Other organizations can provide that training --- which is partly why I'm answering e-mail after midnight, having spent a bunch of hours writing a strawman program for a "newbies" workshop the CPA is putting on in April for folks who need the basics for safe operation of sea kayaks. Not trying to provoke an argument here, but I think that the manufacturers and retailers would be hard pressed to stay in business if they also were responsible for all the dumb things we do with our boats. My tired thoughts. Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Wed Mar 03 1999 - 21:18:01 PST
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