I've ordered a Mariner II, and I'd appreciate any opinions regarding the option of the sliding seat in the bigger Mariners. I don't find that seat to be very comfortable, and I'm concerned about raising my CG at all with padding. Unless experience shows that the sliding seat is an important asset, I'm inclined to get a foam seat and backband so I can make fit alterations more easily. Mike Wagenbach *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Mike, here's my 2 cents... I think Mariner makes some of the very best boats but, For a boat that size and depending on the conditions you paddle in, your size, skills, load, and trim for the conditions, there are times when either a slide seat or a (dare I say it) rudder will make paddling much more pleasant instead of a constant grunt. Given that weather cocking (or weather helm) is a function of the apparent wind speed and direction, one should ideally change the trim and or center of effort to tune the boat so it has a slight bit of weather cocking. If one knows the conditions ahead of time and the conditions don't change (and one's direction of travel relative to the conditions don't change), one can (in theory) trim a boat out with proper loading of gear. If you plan to paddle in areas where conditions change (everywhere?) and/or paddle on day trips without much stowage, either a slide seat of rudder should be considered. I'd go with the seat, cut down the high back (unless Mariner has lowered it: the high back can restrict a lay-back roll and I'm always afraid of high back seats when punching through surf) and add foam to it for comfort and control. The CG issue is something one should be able to get more comfortable with over time. Hope this helps, Eric -----Original Message----- From: M. Wagenbach [mailto:wagen_at_u.washington.edu] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 11:31 AM To: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: [Paddlewise] Mariner seat I've ordered a Mariner II, and I'd appreciate any opinions regarding the option of the sliding seat in the bigger Mariners. I don't find that seat to be very comfortable, and I'm concerned about raising my CG at all with padding. Unless experience shows that the sliding seat is an important asset, I'm inclined to get a foam seat and backband so I can make fit alterations more easily. Mike Wagenbach *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 99-03-01 18:59:13 EST, EricS_at_sakson.com writes: << If you plan to paddle in areas where conditions change (everywhere?) and/or paddle on day trips without much stowage, either a slide seat of rudder should be considered. I'd go with the seat, >> Or an adjustable skeg. I'd go with the skeg, but that may mean little since I've never tried a sliding seat. With the considerable respect I hold for The Broze Brother's design talents, I would expect the seat to function as intended. My personal prejudice, but I find rudders a considerably less desirable tool. Harold So. Cal, so confused *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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