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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Waxed Cotton in Lieu of Tyvek?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 09:23:42 -0500
I lived in England and Ireland for a number of years and spent almost every
weekend either shooting pheasant or grouse  or clay shooting. The weather
was always wet, cold and clammy and I was ALWAYS comfortable in my "Greasy
Green", the waxed cotton Barbour that was the standard outdoor garment. It
breathed and with a wool jersey underneath, I was always warm and dry. Every
year or so, I'd spray a new layer of wax and was good to go.  It was loaded
with pockets, including a game pocket, and was light weight enough to shoot
in.

I still have my Barbour and it's as effective as the day it was new.

cya
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From: Colin Calder <c.j.calder_at_abdn.ac.uk>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Waxed Cotton in Lieu of Tyvek?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 16:33:16 -0000
Bob Denton wrote:

> I lived in England and Ireland for a number of years and
> spent almost every
> weekend either shooting pheasant or grouse  or clay shooting.
> The weather
> was always wet, cold and clammy and I was ALWAYS comfortable
> in my "Greasy
> Green", the waxed cotton Barbour that was the standard
> outdoor garment. It
> breathed and with a wool jersey underneath, I was always warm
> and dry. Every
> year or so, I'd spray a new layer of wax and was good to go.
> It was loaded
> with pockets, including a game pocket, and was light weight
> enough to shoot
> in.
>
> I still have my Barbour and it's as effective as the day it was new.
>

I don't doubt that it is as effective as the day it was new ;-).

For several years I use to go winter mountaineering in a double layer
ventile cotton jacket, a somewhat more sophisticated fabric than barbour
thornproof which was AFAIK originally developed for WWII aircrew
survival suits. Fantastic garment, tough as old boots, and at it's best
when the air temperature was well below freezing - the outer layer would
inevitably be wet through and would freeze into a 100% windproof armour
shell. I used to think it was great .... until I discovered Gortex.

I say, splendidly jolly good for a sporting chap out on the moors
though, what!

Cheers

Colin Calder
57º19'N  2º10'W


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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Waxed Cotton in Lieu of Tyvek?
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 12:01:44 -0800
Colin Calder wrote:
> 

> I don't doubt that it is as effective as the day it was new ;-).
> 
> For several years I use to go winter mountaineering in a double layer
> ventile cotton jacket, a somewhat more sophisticated fabric than barbour
> thornproof which was AFAIK originally developed for WWII aircrew
> survival suits. Fantastic garment, tough as old boots, and at it's best
> when the air temperature was well below freezing - the outer layer would
> inevitably be wet through and would freeze into a 100% windproof armour
> shell. 

The early versions of the venerable 60/40 mountain parka from Sierra
Designs was similar.  The outer was 60/40 cloth (60 percent cotton, 40
nylon) but the inner layer was ventile cotton through the arms and down
to the waist.  It worked on a similar principle.  The outer layer could
wet through but not the ventile.

ralph
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