Re: [Paddlewise] Disclaimers

From: Southwind Kayak Center <kayakskc_at_earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 1999 14:04:58 -0700
I think it would be positive to open Clyde's "can of worms" and 
discuss how commercially connected people could/should/might/shouldn't 
be involved in this list.

Clyde wrote:
> When making a postive comment about a product or service, many people feel the need to offer a disclaimer that they gain no benefit from...., etc., etc.  Is this really neccessary?

And also
> There are manufactures, outfitters, dealers and the like on the list who take good care to maintain the integrity of the list.  I can't help but feel they have a lot more to offer the list but don't because of this constraint.
> They're the ones making, using and selling a wider variety of products than any of us could ever hope to try.  If one of them wants to make specific points or offer reasonable opinions or has a hard to find product in stock, so what?  I personally would not be offended, particularily since I get the occassional email from them already.

I am one of those folks. With all of our staff's combined experience, 
education and "lessons learned the hard way," we do have lots to 
contribute. But I always feel quite constrained not to appear too 
commercial.

When Paddlewise members are discussing and looking for a particularly 
hard to find book or video or paddle which we carry, I would love to 
say that to the whole list rather than to just, on occasion, send a 
private email saying we would be glad to provide what the Member 
wants. I even feel constrained at that, although about half of those 
result in a mail-order sale!

And when everyone is discussing something we have commercially 
evaluated for sale in our store, I would love to give our evaluation 
and say they can buy the one/s we found work best from us (or, of 
course, from their local store). Of course, I can not take the time to 
write full/real magazine quality prodct evaluations for the zillions 
of things we carry (250 books/videos, 35 dry bags, 40 paddles, etc). 
Wouldn't that be a fun product catalog!?! 

Two of our instructors are occasional contributors of technical info 
and perspectives here and I love to see their expertise shared. I 
occasionally contribute a non-sales oriented piece (rolling a folding 
kayak, for example), but most of what I would have to say, if I felt 
free, would come from my perspective as a store owner/guide/instructor 
who really does have biases based both on my commercial interests and 
my/our zillions of paddling/guiding/teaching days.

I know other similar commercial folks who severaly limit their 
contributions because of the same reason. We really don't want to turn 
this into a marketing device, but we are in the business of helping 
paddlers do what we all want to do!

What does everyone think?
Joanne Turner
-- 

Southwind Kayak Center, Inc.
17855 Sky Park Circle #A, Irvine, CA 92614  U.S.A.
949-261-0200 or 800-SOUTHWIND (800-768-8494)
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