Dear PaddleWise friends, It has been a rough week dealing with the failure of our little expedition from Bella Bella to Port Hardy (along the West Coast of Canada). After my close call at Trial Island (SK Magazine, Dec 1998), I swore I'd never get myself into a situation where my options were non-existent. I've done a lot of reflecting this week, been berated by the local kayak community, and had many a friend ask me why I went with the the other two paddlers when I knew there was a potential for problems with the mix. At this point I don't care about Copyright issues or what other paddlers think about writing up a report for PaddleWise, if you guys want it. It would be fairly long. Please let me know your wishes, and I'll comply with the majority. BC'in Ya Doug Lloyd *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
hi Doug, you ask a tough question... you can't please everyone, so you may as well please yourself. in the area that i paddle, there are many folks with varying paddling skills and experience. i have met many novice paddlers who are adults, so they are able to make decissions that effect their well being. they will padde where i'm there or not. i meet these folks on the water because they chose to be there, not because they are paying me to be a guide. some paddlers are critical of me and others who paddle with paddlers who do not conform to some illusive set of paddling ideals...i feel that by friendly communications with folks that perhaps the safety level can be improved. others prefer to just flame and run. if an individual is knowling acting in a reckless manner that endangers me too much, i'm out of there - that's my choice. Flaming in this region is hot enough that many novice paddlers are turned off by a local club and thus do not benefit from well organized training events...myself included. Indeed it is my impression that many of the novice paddlers have been flamed off the local paddling club email. this forum is one where they are more comfortable discussing paddling topics... PFD's, cold water, rack tie downs, and a few other topics often generate lively discussions - from which we are exposed to various views that can be enlightening. Paddling reports and real time judgments provide us with examples from which to learn. if you don't share, i can't learn. if you do share, you may be flamed. you ask a tough question... you can't please everyone, so you may as well please yourself. bye bye bliven *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
From: inetex <dlloyd_at_inetex.com> <failure of our little expedition >what other paddlers think about writing up a >report for PaddleWise, if you guys want it. It would be fairly long. Please >let me know your wishes, and I'll comply with the majority. > Doug, True adventures and close calls make great reading and provide valuable lessons, even for those of us who don't take the same risks. Please write all the details. What mistakes did you make? Would you have preferred a different boat or paddle? How were you dressed? Etc. Jerry *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
> Please write all the details. What mistakes did you make? Would you have preferred a > different boat or paddle? How were you dressed? Etc. > > Jerry As John W. has previously stated, the essential question might be: how come you were t h e r e at all? Did you estimate the risks, what preparations did you do? Ari, Finland believing that the Finnish Gulf will be clear within two weeks :-) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Doug: Please post the story of your trip, including details of what went wrong. You would be doing the paddling community a great service, and might help prevent incidents in the future. Been to Bella Bella. Brad Crain > Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 20:11:25 -0700 > To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net > From: inetex <dlloyd_at_inetex.com> > Subject: [Paddlewise] Trip Report/Accident Report > Dear PaddleWise friends, > > It has been a rough week dealing with the failure of our little expedition > from Bella Bella to Port Hardy (along the West Coast of Canada). After my > close call at Trial Island (SK Magazine, Dec 1998), I swore I'd never get > myself into a situation where my options were non-existent. I've done a lot > of reflecting this week, been berated by the local kayak community, and had > many a friend ask me why I went with the the other two paddlers when I knew > there was a potential for problems with the mix. At this point I don't care > about Copyright issues or what other paddlers think about writing up a > report for PaddleWise, if you guys want it. It would be fairly long. Please > let me know your wishes, and I'll comply with the majority. > > BC'in Ya > > Doug Lloyd > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ > *************************************************************************** > ********************************************************************** Bradford R. Crain E-mail: brad_at_mth.pdx.edu Dept. of Mathematics Phone: (503) 725-3127 Portland State Univ. FAX: (503) 725-3661 P.O. Box 751 Portland, Or. 97207 ********************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Doug wrote: >At this point I don't care >about Copyright issues or what other paddlers think about writing up a >report for PaddleWise, if you guys want it. It would be fairly long. Doug: I can handle long. We would appreciate the contribution from you. Robert rcline_at_onramp.net *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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