In a message dated 3/30/99 7:27:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, woodardr_at_tidalwave.net writes: << When the fight or flight instinct kicks in, I imagine it is very very difficult to overcome the flight tendency. Especially if you have no personal ties to your group, or your confidence in your own skills under pressure is in doubt. >> I agree. I've been there - scared, anxious and ready to run. What makes the choice of flight so wrong (outside of one's moral obligation to others) is the fact that anyone can experience problems. So those who fractionate the group by paddling away from their companions may endanger themselves as much or more than the bulk of the group. They may blindly think they are rushing toward safety, but they may actually be fleeing their only source of help. But then, fear and reason don't usually paddle in the same pod. <<With all the interest in paddling gear and safety, why almost no focus on the paddling 'experience'? >> Good question. On the other hand, when paddling with a group, I find that my comfort level weighs heavily upon my level of enjoyment -- my personal paddling experience. And the degree of group cohesiveness, combined with the group's approach to safety, seriously affects my comfort level -- usually far more than the prevailing conditions. So anything I get from this list that helps me improve pod cohesiveness could help improve all my future experiences. In fact, when Kirby Stevens started this thread, it was with a poignant and seemingly exasperated request for feedback because his enjoyment was being hampered by bad group cohesiveness. Group paddling should be as much about looking out for one-another as it is about sharing the joys of paddling. Harold So. Cal. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
To the corporate memory of PaddleWise --- I have a small drybag, 7" by 24", with the standard roll down drybag non-seal. Can't remember where I got if, and have gone through all the catalogs I can find to buy a few more. Anybody ever see really small diameter drybags --- about four inch diameter --- around for sale? (They're the only drybags that will go through my four inch deck plate "hatches".) Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Jack Martin wrote: > > To the corporate memory of PaddleWise --- I have a small drybag, > 7" by 24", with the standard roll down drybag non-seal. Can't > remember where I got if, and have gone through all the catalogs I > can find to buy a few more. Anybody ever see really small > diameter drybags --- about four inch diameter --- around for sale? > (They're the only drybags that will go through my four inch deck > plate "hatches".) Wow. A 4-inch hatch is a really small opening, Joq. I could not locate anything in a 7 inch width (when FLAT). Best I could do was the Summer 1999 Sierra West catalog, which has Seattle Sport dry bags in the XS variety (10 x 19; 300 cu in). They will have a nominal 6 inch diameter when FILLED. Their 800 number: 713-4534; their Web site: http://www.sierratradingpost.com/index.cfm Unlike others on the list, who have had difficulty with availability from SW, I have almost never had a reject. The Web site seems to be up to date on availability. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
I bought some govt surplus drybags used for gas masks that I use to fill small spaces. They roll and have a snap closure and cost $.50 each. cu -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net] On Behalf Of Jack Martin Sent: Friday, April 02, 1999 12:04 AM To: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subject: [Paddlewise] Drybags To the corporate memory of PaddleWise --- I have a small drybag, 7" by 24", with the standard roll down drybag non-seal. Can't remember where I got if, and have gone through all the catalogs I can find to buy a few more. Anybody ever see really small diameter drybags --- about four inch diameter --- around for sale? (They're the only drybags that will go through my four inch deck plate "hatches".) Jack Martin *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>I bought some govt surplus drybags used for gas masks that I use to fill >small spaces. They roll and have a snap closure and cost $.50 each. >cu I just got some of these recently from a paddler in SC who had them in boxes of 10 for $19.10 including shipping. Your price is better but nonetheless they worked out OK. Joe P. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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