Re: [Paddlewise] Pro's and Con's of the "Swede Form"

-----Original Message-----
From: John Winters <735769_at_ican.net>
To: 'Paddlewise' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Saturday, May 29, 1999 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Pro's and Con's of the "Swede Form"


I wrote:
>>Why I said the water might be going back and forth (as well as up and down
>>and forward and back) is that if the hull is flared outward (as most that
>>don't look like a plow are) the hull would be in the way of pure up and
>down
>>motion of the individual water molecules. It would force them to the side
>as
>>the crest passes through them and they would fall back next to the hull
>with
>>the next trough. To see this more clearly (my way) imagine a long flared
>>boat with many crests along its side at the same time.
>
John responded:
>Sorry, Can't see it. This might help explain why I can't see it. Those who
>have paddled whitewater know that the waves in a chute stand still while
>the water moves past the bottom. In the immediate area of the boat (by
>immediate I mean all the area affected by the boats passage until the waves
>leave the hull to form the wave train) the water acts as if it were flowing
>over the bottom (upside down as it were). Waves at the point of creation by
>a moving solid object or in flowing water do not act like free waves in
>open water. The rotational motion comes after the wave creation not
>integral to it.
>
I can't figure out what it is you are trying to say here. I don't know about
the point of creation but once the wave is created it should act like any
other deep water wave (this is why I proposed a long hull with many waves
along it as the model. There is water in those waves and it is going up and
down. As best as I can tell you are describing a higher speed regime with no
crests along the hull.

Matt Broze
www.marinerkayaks.com


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