-----Original Message----- From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net> To: 'Paddlewise' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Date: May 29, 1999 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Pro's and Con's of the "Swede Form" (SNIP) >I can't figure out what it is you are trying to say here. I don't know about >the point of creation but once the wave is created it should act like any >other deep water wave (this is why I proposed a long hull with many waves >along it as the model. There is water in those waves and it is going up and >down. As best as I can tell you are describing a higher speed regime with no >crests along the hull. As I think about it this something comes to mind. The waves created travel in the same direction as the hull. That means that the rotation at the crest would be opposite the direction of travel. We know that the flow along the hull travels from front to back from our flow experiments. But, suppose the flow in the waves at the crest acts to retard the flow along the hull thus increasing the potential energy and then in the troughs tends to augment the flow because the trough motion acts in the same direction as the hull flow. This satisfies the flow regime (faster in the troughs where pressure decreases) slower in the crests (where pressure increases) even though the flow in the waves acts a distance from the hull and it also satisfies the flow in the created waves. An interesting thing about this comes to mind in that Leo Lazauskas (author of the CFD program Michlet) says you cannot rely upon wave size predictions close to the hull and perhaps this helps to explain why. Couple these opposing flows with turbulent flow aft etc and you might get a real mess. I think you have hit on something, Matt, that I had not thought of before. Who says these things aren't productive. Glad you stuck to your guns on this one, Matt. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Specialists in Human Powered Watercraft http://home.ican.net/~735769/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************Received on Sat May 29 1999 - 16:59:10 PDT
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