I acquired a lot of waypoints on my Garmin GPS 12XL in the last year, including trips in Nipigon Bay and the Apostle Islands, and I acquired not one but four programs for downloading the data from the 12XL to my computer, but until last night I had not found the time to put them together. What prompted me to finally do so was losing all the data in my 12XL last weekend. I had plugged the 12V power cable into the 12XL but not into the cigarette lighter of my car and left it that way for several hours. Apparently, when you do that, it disconnects the internal backup battery. The next time I turned it on, the 12XL gave me a message that all my data had been lost. This included not just my waypoints, but the time offset and other configuration elements. :-( So, with another trip to the Apostles coming up, I decided to reenter the waypoints for prominent geographic features in the islands. For this I chose the Topo!GPS program, which has a CD of USGS topographic maps of the Apostles. With the older version of Topo!, I had found the waypoint coordinates by placing the cursor at a waypoint location and writing down the coordinates, which appeared at the bottom of the screen. I then manually entered these coordinates and descriptions in the 12XL during the drive to the Apostles -- a very tedious process. The new GPS version makes it much easier. To create a waypoint list, you just click on the map where you want to place a waypoint. Next you type the name and a short description of the waypoint in a dialog box. When the dialog box closes, the waypoint is added to a list at the bottom of the screen. When the list is finished, you connect your GPS unit to your computer's serial port, turn it on, select "Interface" on the Garmin, and then follow the instructions in the Upload Wizard to copy the data to the GPS unit. The waypoints are saved in files that are separate from the map data files, so you can create a waypoint file for each trip if you like. You can also merge files, and, of course, you can also download waypoints, routes, and tracks from your GPS unit to Topo!GPS and save them. You can do this whether or not they are in the geographic area covered by the map. The Apostle Islands are included in a CD set that covers Isle Royale National Park, Voyageurs National Park, the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, the entire Minnesota shore of Lake Superior, and the Twin Cities metro area. A waypoint file that includes over 2000 BWCAW campsites can be downloaded from the Topo! Web site at http://www.topo.com/boundary.shtml Now to acquire maps and GPS programs for areas not covered by Topo!... Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
As a follow on, I have been using Fugawi, Delorme and Waypoint for many of those tasks. Fugawi allows you to load any scanned map. I recently used it on a commercial airline trip from Miami to Puerto Rico using a marine chart of the area and had a fascinating time identifying all the nameless islands I've seen so many times. Will Topo work with any DGS? cya -----Original Message----- From: owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net [mailto:owner-paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Holst Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 11:25 AM To: 'Paddlewise' Cc: 'Norton Johnson' Subject: [Paddlewise] Garmin 12XL & Topo!GPS I acquired a lot of waypoints on my Garmin GPS 12XL in the last year, including trips in Nipigon Bay and the Apostle Islands, and I acquired not one but four programs for downloading the data from the 12XL to my computer, but until last night I had not found the time to put them together. What prompted me to finally do so was losing all the data in my 12XL last weekend. I had plugged the 12V power cable into the 12XL but not into the cigarette lighter of my car and left it that way for several hours. Apparently, when you do that, it disconnects the internal backup battery. The next time I turned it on, the 12XL gave me a message that all my data had been lost. This included not just my waypoints, but the time offset and other configuration elements. :-( So, with another trip to the Apostles coming up, I decided to reenter the waypoints for prominent geographic features in the islands. For this I chose the Topo!GPS program, which has a CD of USGS topographic maps of the Apostles. With the older version of Topo!, I had found the waypoint coordinates by placing the cursor at a waypoint location and writing down the coordinates, which appeared at the bottom of the screen. I then manually entered these coordinates and descriptions in the 12XL during the drive to the Apostles -- a very tedious process. The new GPS version makes it much easier. To create a waypoint list, you just click on the map where you want to place a waypoint. Next you type the name and a short description of the waypoint in a dialog box. When the dialog box closes, the waypoint is added to a list at the bottom of the screen. When the list is finished, you connect your GPS unit to your computer's serial port, turn it on, select "Interface" on the Garmin, and then follow the instructions in the Upload Wizard to copy the data to the GPS unit. The waypoints are saved in files that are separate from the map data files, so you can create a waypoint file for each trip if you like. You can also merge files, and, of course, you can also download waypoints, routes, and tracks from your GPS unit to Topo!GPS and save them. You can do this whether or not they are in the geographic area covered by the map. The Apostle Islands are included in a CD set that covers Isle Royale National Park, Voyageurs National Park, the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, the entire Minnesota shore of Lake Superior, and the Twin Cities metro area. A waypoint file that includes over 2000 BWCAW campsites can be downloaded from the Topo! Web site at http://www.topo.com/boundary.shtml Now to acquire maps and GPS programs for areas not covered by Topo!... Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
>> As a follow on, I have been using Fugawi, Delorme and Waypoint for many of those tasks. Fugawi allows you to load any scanned map. I recently used it on a commercial airline trip from Miami to Puerto Rico using a marine chart of the area and had a fascinating time identifying all the nameless islands I've seen so many times. >> Another GPS program that uses scanned maps, as well as USGS DRG digitized maps, is OziExplorer. It is shareware, and registration is less than the cost of Fugawi (US$65 vs. US$95). Also, it has some features that Fugawi lacks, though at present Fugawi is the only one of the two that can load BSB digitized marine charts. I downloaded OziExplorer yesterday and installed it this morning. So far, I've just had a quick look at it, but it looks pretty complete. I plan to use it for kayaking the Ontario shore of Lake Superior, for which no digitized maps are commercially available. To download the shareware version of OziExplorer 3.70, go to http://www.powerup.com.au/~lornew/oziexp.html. For information about Fugawi, see http://www.fugawi.com/. For a feature comparison between the two, see http://joe.mehaffey.com/ozi-fug2.txt. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
Correction: Though the released version of OziExplorer cannot load BSB marine charts, a beta version is available that can. See the OziExplorer Web site. Chuck Holst *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.gasp-seakayak.net/paddlewise/ ***************************************************************************
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