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From: <DMon707_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:36:49 EDT
I use Sea Savon Salt Water Shampoo and Body Bath. Great stuff. You can get it 
from Southwest Sea Kayaks (www.swkayak.com).

I don't think salt on the towel is really a problem, but if you use a 
handywipe instead of a towel, then you can wash and dry the handywipe. I 
don't know how any expedition kayaker can function without handywipes, yet 
most folks don't even know what they are! They are NOT "wet-ones." They are 
nylon dishcloths that last and last.

Doug Montgomery
San Francisco
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From: Nilsen, Gary <gnilsen_at_thezenith.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:17:01 -0400
My friend and I lived for 3 months on a 27 catamaran in the Bahamas. We
went 3 weeks one time with only 5 gallons for fresh water (lots of rum).
What we did, was to use dish soap, it lathers great in salt water, then
after we were done was to use a wash cloth with fresh water to wipe off
the small amount of salt left. This left us clean and salt free. Sun
showers are great when you have access to fill them up but even being
very frugal with the water your going to use at least a 1/2 gallon of
water. 

Give it a try it works.

Sir Gary Nilsen
Genetics explain why you look like your father and if you don't why you
should.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sisler, Clyde [mailto:Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 9:28 AM
To: 'Paddlewise'
Subject: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing


Hey all you crusty cruisers and funky touring people, how do you make
out
bathing in salt water for weeks at a time?

According to the creaky chemist, salt water only contains 3% salt.  But
I'm
somewhat concerned about salt sores and ulcers festering up after 'many'
days.  I've been told that if you dry yourself thoroughly after bathing
you
will get most of the salt off.  Some places are easier to dry than
others
and those are the ones I'm worried about.

I wonder what happens to the salt concentration in the towel.  Rinse it
out
like a Gortex dry suit I guess.

I have a Sun Shower that works ok but I haven't used it for several/many
consecutive days.  BTW I use Joy dish detergent for the suds.  

Clyde Sisler
http://csisler.com


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From: Saul Kinderis <saul_at_isomedia.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 07:52:19 -0700
Clyde,

You just need to paddle in a rainier climate   ;-)
Here in the NW we just stand outside with a bar of soap and wait the 5-10
minutes it takes for a rain cloud to pass.

Actually, the longest paddle trips I've done were 14 days on salt water and
I didn't have any problems from bathing in the salt water(I'm not known for
using towels, so yes, I did have a salt build up at times). My guess is that
it is a bit of a wives tale and any sores may be due to other problems such
as bacteria, or from the crystals acting like grains of sand - I sweat so
heavily that the grains of sand theory would dissolve. Even a ten day Baja
trip with a shortage of fresh water, and no problems.

Happy paddling - Saul
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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
To: 'Paddlewise' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 7:11 AM
Subject: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing


>Hey all you crusty cruisers and funky touring people, how do you make out
>bathing in salt water for weeks at a time?
>
>According to the creaky chemist, salt water only contains 3% salt.  But I'm
>somewhat concerned about salt sores and ulcers festering up after 'many'
>days.  I've been told that if you dry yourself thoroughly after bathing you
>will get most of the salt off.  Some places are easier to dry than others
>and those are the ones I'm worried about.
>
>I wonder what happens to the salt concentration in the towel.  Rinse it out
>like a Gortex dry suit I guess.
>
>I have a Sun Shower that works ok but I haven't used it for several/many
>consecutive days.  BTW I use Joy dish detergent for the suds.
>
>Clyde Sisler
>http://csisler.com
>
>
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From: Reeves, Debbie (Debbie) <"Reeves,>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 10:53:04 -0400
I use moist toweletts.  I think the product is called "Wet Ones".  They can
be purchased in a quantity of 15 which comes in a nice, flat, water
resistent, resealable envelope.  If its too cold to bath in the water, these
work great by themselves and they also are good to wipe down the skin after
bathing in salt water.

Debbie Reeves
Sandy Hook, NJ

> ----------
> From: 	Sisler, Clyde[SMTP:Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com]
> 
> Hey all you crusty cruisers and funky touring people, how do you make out
> bathing in salt water for weeks at a time?
> 
> 
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From: Roger Korn <rkorn_at_europa.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 08:24:11 -0700
Prell concentrate shampoo - for bathing, clothes, dishes. Probably
causes cancer, acid rain, and ozone degradation, but it works well.

Roger Korn
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From: Jim Champoux <jim_at_sigall.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 14:15:57 -0400
We also used Prell in basic training in the USAF 'cause supposedly it left
no trace on the shower tiles(and a used bar of soap was hard to pass
inspection). Who knows if it was true or not but it was fokelore and
*everyone* used it.


>Prell concentrate shampoo - for bathing, clothes, dishes. Probably
>causes cancer, acid rain, and ozone degradation, but it works well.
>
>Roger Korn
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From: David Seng <David_at_wainet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 08:31:21 -0800
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sisler, Clyde [mailto:Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com]
> 
> Hey all you crusty cruisers and funky touring people, how do 
> you make out
> bathing in salt water for weeks at a time?
> 
snip

  I've never had a problem with the occasional salt water bath, but I've
never had to go more than two days before it either rained or there was a
fresh water supply.  
  My impression is that _prolonged_ immersion/contact can cause some of the
troublesome problems like ulceration, etc.  I don't think that a daily bath
with a good drying should be a problem.
  I'm curious, where are you planning to paddle that has no fresh water
available for more than a week at a stretch?  Baja, maybe?

Dave Seng
Juneau, Alaska
 
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From: Clyde Sisler <clyde_sisler_at_email.msn.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 15:07:50 -0400
>  I'm curious, where are you planning to paddle that has no fresh water
>available for more than a week at a stretch?  Baja, maybe?


Not this year.

I'll be spending the summer in Newfoundland where I expect to make several
1-2 week tours through the east coast  islands.  Time will not be a
constraint and I don't want bathing to be a constraint either.

Will there fresh water nearby?  I dunno, probably.  If not, I'll be carrying
a limited amount of fresh water, not for bathing.  I also don't want a love
sick moose following me around when I get back to the mainland nor do I want
to have to worry about standing downwind of myself.



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From: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:40:02 -0700
Salt water soap works great if you towel off after.

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From: Sisler, Clyde <Clyde.Sisler_at_wang.com>
To: 'Paddlewise' <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Tuesday, May 04, 1999 7:26 AM
Subject: [Paddlewise] Salt water bathing


>Hey all you crusty cruisers and funky touring people, how do you make out
>bathing in salt water for weeks at a time?
>
>According to the creaky chemist, salt water only contains 3% salt.  But I'm
>somewhat concerned about salt sores and ulcers festering up after 'many'
>days.  I've been told that if you dry yourself thoroughly after bathing you
>will get most of the salt off.  Some places are easier to dry than others
>and those are the ones I'm worried about.
>
>I wonder what happens to the salt concentration in the towel.  Rinse it out
>like a Gortex dry suit I guess.
>
>I have a Sun Shower that works ok but I haven't used it for several/many
>consecutive days.  BTW I use Joy dish detergent for the suds.
>
>Clyde Sisler
>http://csisler.com
>
>
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