Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak volumes

-----Original Message-----
From: rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
To: Matt Broze <mkayaks_at_oz.net>
Cc: PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Thursday, June 10, 1999 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Kayak volumes


>Matt Broze wrote:
> back in 1986, I suggested they stand a kayak up
>> on end and measure the volume to the rear of the cockpit and in front of
the
>> footpedals of a paddler with a standard inseam length and foot size. Any
>> compartments could be measured separately. Even then a kayak with useable
>> storage space next to the seat or more cockpit behind the paddler than
usual
>> would be penalized.
>> Matt Broze
>> http://www.marinerkayaks.com
>
>ralph diaz responded:
I must have missed something here.  If the objective is to determine how
>much gear a paddler could carry in his/her boat, why penalize the boat
>for the useable space inside the cockpit.  I know it presents an
>emptying problem if the boat gets flooded but I believe the discussion
>had to do with gear packing volume.
>
>Folding kayaks have useable space inside of the cockpit alongside the
>paddler and a means for securing it in place, i.e. the longerons and
>ribs can accept straps to hold gear in.  It depends on the folding
>kayak.  The K-Light has some room in the cockpit but not as much as
>Klepper single.  The advantage of storing things in the cockpit area is
>that it is neutral area in terms of trim.  Also items inside the cockpit
>are more conveniently accessed while underway.  Several companies
>including Long Haul Products sell what are termed cockpit bags, i.e.
>bags meant to fit inside of a folding kayak directly alongside the
>paddler or his/her legs.


Sorry I switched the name of the thread since it started on Pros and cons of
swedeform and was way off topic. Earlier we had discussed coming up with a
volume the average paddler would take up in the average kayak. By
subtracting that volume from the total volume we could estimate relative
gear storage capacities.
That way any boat wide enough to have storage room beside the seat wouldn't
be penalized as much as just filling the back and the front with water or
using just compartmented space.
I don't think I would like to count that "large" gear bag that went between
my legs at the start of a three week Queen Charlotte trip in an early
Featrhercraft K-2 as usable storage even though I was forced to use it
then.:-)
Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com

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