Yeah... where's Quincy? I found another source that seemed to be a fairly comprehensive and up-to-date resource on drowning: Bove, Alfred A. (ed). 1997. "Diving Medicine" 3rd Edition. Saunders. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0721660568/qid=929462965/sr=1-6/002- 4098079-8080248). I browsed the section on "near-drowning" and there were some updates and a review on aspiration of water during drowning. The book was $73.00 plus tax locally and $69 at Amazon.com, so I passed on buying it for now at least. Bove's review, as best I can recall from my cursory scan of the chapter, reported that most of the earlier studies on drowning which involved haemodilution and haemoconcentration from fresh water vs. salt water were done on animals with endotrachial tubes. Actual drownings or near drownings seem to present with the level of blood chemistry changes caused by the water itself. Pulmonary edema appears to be caused from asphyxia rather than water intrusion, this is supported by the articles I referenced you from medline. However, the chapter in Diving Medicine cited research that claimed there was no water aspiration in 15 to 20% of drownings... this is in contrast to the earlier research that said that there was no water aspiration in 80 to 95% of drownings. However,... because...because... there was not the problem with heamodilution (fresh water) that was earlier suspected based on the experimental drownings in animal studies. Diving medicine did go on to discuss near-drowning treatment of pulmonary infections as a consequence of water aspiration... namely, the aspiration of silicates and diatom and other bacteria. IN summary, it appears that the 3rd edition of diving medicine concurs that there is aspriation of water in at least a certain percentage of near-drownings. The conseqences are not what they were first thought to be, regarding blood chemistry changes. The bottom line in answer to the original post concerning Heimlich first as a routine measure is: It's a waste of precious, precious time, and could additionally harmful for a cervical or other injury. If you happen to find me upside down in my boat and not breathing... you can skip the Heimlich! Swipe, inflate. If no pulse... go into the cpr cycles. ---------- >From: Mlberr_at_aol.com >To: robtcline_at_earthlink.net >Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Heimlich & CPR >Date: Mon, Jun 14, 1999, 20:34 > >so the trachea opens upon death but the larynx remains shut, tightly enough >to keep out water? hmmm seems strange..but i'll checkout the sources you >mentioned... thanks for providing them...but a forensic pathologist might be >the best source... where's quincey when you need him.... > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Tue Jun 15 1999 - 09:22:02 PDT
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