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From: Phil Huck <thekayaker_at_yahoo.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Any tips for Scout Kayak Trips?
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:11:05 -0700 (PDT)
I was recently asked to instruct a few Scout packs on
water safety and overnight kayak trips.

I am very well practiced with safety equipment and
have plenty of it for the troops. I have just finished
reading this months article in Backpacker on Scouts
and (surprise to me) now I am working with them.
          My main concern is...
What is it like camping with scouts?
I imagine - very organized teens hustling about like
worker ants assembling and disassemblig camps, crafts,
plenty of skills testing etc. 
My brothers used to be in Scouts and they always had
to pack some cat food "just in case".  
Regarding that last statement - how prepared should I
be for this overnight trip? I have never had to bring
all that before, so this will definitely be a fun
learning experience.

We will paddle about 9 - 11 miles a day, with a couple
small portages about 100 yds each.
Boats= a fleet of Perception Acadia's (mostly), 2
SeaLion's (counselors), Carolina's and Keeowee 2's. I
will be in my friends Shadow - which I have paddled on
many longer trips 25 miles +.

Any Scout Boating Stories? - besides the scary one in
Canoe and Kayak last year.

Any tips?

Let me hear from you.
Phil Huck
thekayaker_at_yahoo.com
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From: <VajraT_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Any tips for Scout Kayak Trips?
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:04:23 EDT
> I was recently asked to instruct a few Scout packs on
>  water safety and overnight kayak trips. <snip> > Any tips?
>  
I've done quite a bit of this.  I suggest you do whatever you need to do to 
spend one evening or afternoon with the group before the on-water day.  It 
could be just hanging out and observing.  Whatever it takes of your time will 
be a good investment -- you'll have a much easier time of it, and be more 
effective all around, if you get some insight into the dynamics going on 
among the kids.

Have a great time,
Jim
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From: Joe Pylka <pylka_at_castle.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Any tips for Scout Kayak Trips?
Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:40:44 -0400
>I was recently asked to instruct a few Scout packs on
>water safety and overnight kayak trips..............
>
>Any tips?
        It might be useful to get copies  of the Merit Badge pamphlets for
Canoeing and Whitewater.  This will give you some idea of the kinds of
things that we try to get across to them.
        Regarding safety, I have a slide show  that occasionally is given to
scout groups.  Besides pictures of some the the things they will come
across, I emphasize only a few things.  Lowhead dams and strainers are to be
avoided --they're not "hero routes";  Wear or carry proper thermal
protection;  and always, always, wear your PFD.
        On the trip, keep things exciting and interesting.  Try pointing out
natural features, put them into the context of the environment they're in.
Also, slow them down.  the most common thing I had to deal with as a
scoutmaster was the unbridled rush at the beginning of a hike, only to be
followed by the exhausted drudgery of the last mile or so.  Pacing is
important.
        9-10 miles seems reasonable to us adults.  A youngster in a Keowee?
maybe not.  You'll have to play this one by ear.  Is there an appreciable
current that will help move them along?  Plan also for wind.
Joe P.

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