I am trying to find some in the northern suburbs of Chicago. Most places seem not to have even heard of minicell, even under another name. Any suggestions, including mail-order or web-based? Thanks. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>I am trying to find some in the northern suburbs of Chicago. Most >places seem not to have even heard of minicell, even under another >name. Any suggestions, including mail-order or web-based? Thanks. > NOC 1-800-367-3521 or NRS 1-800-635-5202 These are two catalogs that carry minicell. >*************************************************************************** >PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List >Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net >Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net >Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ >*************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
When asking around, remember that foam shops often refer to it as closed cell foam. It comes in either black or gray, and in various thicknesses --- none of which is cheap! - Scott Ives Arthur Hebert wrote: > > >I am trying to find some in the northern suburbs of Chicago. Most > >places seem not to have even heard of minicell, even under another > >name. Any suggestions, including mail-order or web-based? Thanks. > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I used closed cell foam in the guise of a sleeping bag pad purchased at a local kmart for 6.00, probably enough to do 3 or 4 yaks. It is thin, so I built it up similar to a topographic map. It doesn't seem to be quite as nice as the closed cell neoprene I subsequently purchased from my industrial supplier which comes in at 2" and is easily formed on a stationary disk sander. I used scotch super 90 to adhere it, but was informed by a kind person on the list that this is not considered waterproof and there are better contact adhesives for this. I have had no problem with it at this point, but I was very careful of doing relief cuts at acute angles, chamfer edges subject to friction, and used the curve of the foam to follow the contour of the seat as best I can. After being in it a couple of days ago, seems that I will have to add a couple of layers to compensate for the loss of winter padding...oh, and this stuff is blue. ssives_at_erols.com wrote: > > When asking around, remember that foam shops often refer to it as > closed cell foam. It comes in either black or gray, and in various > thicknesses --- none of which is cheap! > > - Scott Ives > > Arthur Hebert wrote: > > > > >I am trying to find some in the northern suburbs of Chicago. Most > > >places seem not to have even heard of minicell, even under another > > >name. Any suggestions, including mail-order or web-based? Thanks. -- gabriel l romeu http://studiofurniture.com furniture, designed and constructed http://members.aol.com/romeugp paintings, photos, prints, etc. http://members.xoom.com/gabrielR a daily photo journal *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:30 AM 6/27/99 -0400, Gabriel L Romeu wrote: >It doesn't seem to be quite as nice as the closed cell neoprene I >subsequently purchased from my industrial supplier which comes in at 2" >and is easily formed on a stationary disk sander. >I used scotch super 90 to adhere it, but was informed by a kind person >on the list that this is not considered waterproof and there are better >contact adhesives for this. Can someone please suggest a good waterproof adhesive for placing foam in a plastic boat? Bob Tellefson Santa Barbara Kayak Assocation http://www.sbka.org *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 10:56 AM 6/28/99 -0700, Bob Tellefson wrote: >Can someone please suggest a good waterproof adhesive for placing foam in a >plastic boat? Hi Bob et al! I'm sure there are adhesives made specifically for this application. However for what it's worth, look for a product called "Barge Cement". It's a snotty looking yellow contact cement that will glue just about anything to almost anything else. Dries to a tough relatively flexible film. I have used it for too many applications to enumerate, one of which was to glue foam pads into my canoe. It works. ByeBye! S. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Steve Jernigan wrote: > At 10:56 AM 6/28/99 -0700, Bob Tellefson wrote: > > >Can someone please suggest a good waterproof adhesive for placing foam in a > >plastic boat? > > Hi Bob et al! > I'm sure there are adhesives made specifically for this application. > However for what it's worth, look for a product called "Barge Cement". It's Does anyone know whether it sticks to polyethylene? I always thought nothing did; this would be great to know. eh *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Elaine Harmon wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jun 1999, Steve Jernigan wrote: > > > At 10:56 AM 6/28/99 -0700, Bob Tellefson wrote: > > > > >Can someone please suggest a good waterproof adhesive for placing foam in a > > >plastic boat? > > > > Hi Bob et al! > > I'm sure there are adhesives made specifically for this application. > > However for what it's worth, look for a product called "Barge Cement". It's > > Does anyone know whether it sticks to polyethylene? I always thought > nothing did; this would be great to know. > > eh I have used "Hydrogrip" from Perception- you can order it from NOC (Nantahala Outdoor Center)- to install fit kits on several polyethylene WW kayaks. You just have to rough up the surfaces first. Haven't had any problems with it. Walt Chudleigh Park City, UT *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>I used closed cell foam in the guise of a sleeping bag pad purchased at >a local kmart for 6.00, probably enough to do 3 or 4 yaks. It is thin, >so I built it up similar to a topographic map. >It doesn't seem to be quite as nice as the closed cell neoprene..... I've used the same stuff for various boat projects. The only problem I've encountered (and it could become a big one) is that after a while any compression "sets". I used it for kneepads in a canoe, installing it last fall, and it already has compressed down to where I will have to replace it. Back to minicell for me. A friend of mine who is a freestyle quietwater paddler has mousepad material that he uses for kneepads. Neoprene with a nylon covering, it's twice or more as thick as the usual mousepad. That works great for him. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 6/28/99 1:51:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, eharmon_at_cs.miami.edu writes: << > I'm sure there are adhesives made specifically for this application. > However for what it's worth, look for a product called "Barge Cement". It's Does anyone know whether it sticks to polyethylene? I always thought nothing did; this would be great to know. >> Don't know -- Don't paddle no barges.:-) But (as someone said) Hydro Grip or similar marine-formulated contact cements work great with good prep. In a past SKM article, Hydro Grip was judged best when compared to many others. I also use one of the 3M spray cements. The procedure (including the big secret): 1. lightly touch-sand both surfaces (80 grit works well); 2. clean with acetone; 3. after all the cleaner has thoroughly evaporated, pass a flame over the surface of the poly where cement is to be applied -- use a torch or Bic lighter, just don't overheat; 4. apply *thin* layer of cement over both surfaces and let dry tack-free; 5. apply second *thin* layer of cement over both surfaces and let dry tack-free; 6. carefully position foam and press in place without trapping any air or sticking your fat thumbs in the middle of the project. Optional good idea: use industrial strength velcro for some of your outfitting to allow easy removal -- unless you never want to have to loan your boat to anyone larger than yourself. Harold *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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