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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 07:25:57 -0700
Hi, I got this request but obviously live a bit too far away from the
site to be of help.

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Dear Mr. Diaz::

I was referred to you by Mr. Jay Gingrich, a member of the Rocky Mtn.
Sea
Kayaking Club.

This is in regards to my son Maligiaq, age 17, who hopes to compete in
the races.

Maligiaq is from Greenland, but is staying temporarily at my home in
Colorado Springs, CO.
He is the current and 3-time Greenland kayaking champion and has been
sponsored by numerous sea kayaking clubs in the U.S. to demonstrate and
teach Greenland-style kayak rolling techniques.  He is very excited
about
competing in the Quebec races.

Because of his limited use of English, his unfamiliarity with the
Montreal area, and our limited money, he will need some assistance while
in Quebec.  We have purchased round-trip bus tickets to the area, have
registered him for the races, and completed the liability waiver. 
Maligiaq will be arriving at the Montreal bus station from Albany, N.Y.
on July 28 at 05:05 p.m., and returning 11 August at 12:01 p.m.  
Maligiaq will be able to pay for the entrance fee and the transportation
of the kayak to Forestville.

However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and transportation
to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.  He might be
able to afford to rent a kayak there, depending on the cost.  He will
need a few items of the required gear for the races, which he can pay
for, but will need some assistance in getting to the store(s) and
getting
around in the Montreal area.   We were hoping that someone could loan a
competitive kakak, if not perhaps one of the stores would sponsor him
and
let him use one of theirs.

Additionally, there will be 5 paddlers from Greenland attending the
races.  Maligiaq might be able to lodge with them, but first we need to
find out where they will be staying.  If he can stay with them, he would
need transportation to and from the bus station and the accomodations
where he will be staying.  We are hoping to find some who can take him
"under their wings" and make sure he has the equipment for the races and
understands the rules for them.

Any help or referrals would be sincerely appreciated.

Best regards,

Geno Padilla
3100 Wood Ave., Lot L-11
Colorado Springs, CO 80907
Home Tele:  719-630-8804
E-Mail:  GENPAD_at_JUNO.COM

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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:39:44 EDT
In a message dated 7/22/99 8:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:

<< However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and transportation
 to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.   >>

I'd be happy to send a modest check to help with pocket money.  Should I send 
directly to the address?  Payable to whom?  Any other suggestions to do 
something as a group?  Ralph to coordinate?  Any volunteers?

Sandy Kramer
Miami, FL
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From: Joan Spinner <JSpinner_at_agu.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:14:01 -0400
    I know there are many people who would like to help but I'd suggest everyone
wait until this is verified by Ralph or someone. This is, unfortunately, exactly
the kind of group ripe for picking because we all have been reading about this
young man and want to promote our sport.
    I am on other lists that have been taken for a ride by people who sound legit
and write lovely, personal replies. I guess at some point you just have to take
the risk and say it is better to be scamed than to let the chance to do something
good and important go by. That is a personal choice we each make but it won't
hurt to temper good will with caution.
    Hopefully we can get this verified quickly and that will solve that question
at least. Then we can figure out just how to help him in the best way.

Joan Spinner

Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 7/22/99 8:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:
>
> << However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and transportation
>  to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.   >>
>
> I'd be happy to send a modest check to help with pocket money.  Should I send
> directly to the address?  Payable to whom?  Any other suggestions to do
> something as a group?  Ralph to coordinate?  Any volunteers?
>
> Sandy Kramer
> Miami, FL
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From: Julio MacWilliams <juliom_at_cisco.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 14:23:14 -0700 (PDT)
It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of a 17 year
old champion, who knows no French and little English, moving around in Quebec.

The kind of help Maligiaq needs is physical, that is, he needs
someone to take him by the hand to the race.

Are there any Quebecois in this list?

- Julio

> 
>     I know there are many people who would like to help but I'd suggest everyone
> wait until this is verified by Ralph or someone. This is, unfortunately, exactly
> the kind of group ripe for picking because we all have been reading about this
> young man and want to promote our sport.
>     I am on other lists that have been taken for a ride by people who sound legit
> and write lovely, personal replies. I guess at some point you just have to take
> the risk and say it is better to be scamed than to let the chance to do something
> good and important go by. That is a personal choice we each make but it won't
> hurt to temper good will with caution.
>     Hopefully we can get this verified quickly and that will solve that question
> at least. Then we can figure out just how to help him in the best way.
> 
> Joan Spinner
> 
> Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 7/22/99 8:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:
> >
> > << However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and transportation
> >  to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.   >>
> >
> > I'd be happy to send a modest check to help with pocket money.  Should I send
> > directly to the address?  Payable to whom?  Any other suggestions to do
> > something as a group?  Ralph to coordinate?  Any volunteers?
> >
> > Sandy Kramer
> > Miami, FL
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From: <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 12:26:56 -0700
Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 7/22/99 8:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:
> 
> << However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and transportation
>  to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.   >>
> 
> I'd be happy to send a modest check to help with pocket money.  Should I send
> directly to the address?  Payable to whom?  Any other suggestions to do
> something as a group?  Ralph to coordinate?  Any volunteers?
> 
> Sandy Kramer
> Miami, FL


I would not be a good coordinator on this one as I don't know the man or
his dad, don't live near Montreal etc.  But what you propose is a good
idea.

Just speaking off the top of my head, I might suggest sending a check to
his dad whose name and address is in the original posting.  Make it out
to his dad and indicate on it somewhere that it is to help Maligiaq's
funding for the race.

I am astounded at the reaction thusfar.  Kirk Olsen sent the posting on
to the Baidarka listserver.  Joe Pylka sent it on to the NE Paddlers
bulletin board etc.  John Winters also got the request directly and is
working on a way to help (I wonder if John's good friend and fellow
Canadian, Tim Sponsons, could lend a hand :-)).  What a helpful group!!!

best,

ralph

Here is the dad's address, etc. again:

Geno Padilla
3100 Wood Ave., Lot L-11
Colorado Springs, CO 80907
Home Tele:  719-630-8804
E-Mail:  GENPAD_at_JUNO.COM
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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 09:48:46 -0600 (MDT)
what would you like to have verified ... i have been hosting maligiaq off
and on here in colorado for a month or so, and have met geno padilla as
well. i may be able to verify whatever it is you want. he's a great kid,
and has been training hard for this race...

mark


 On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Joan Spinner wrote:

> 
>     I know there are many people who would like to help but I'd suggest everyone
> wait until this is verified by Ralph or someone. This is, unfortunately, exactly
> the kind of group ripe for picking because we all have been reading about this
> young man and want to promote our sport.
>     I am on other lists that have been taken for a ride by people who sound legit
> and write lovely, personal replies. I guess at some point you just have to take
> the risk and say it is better to be scamed than to let the chance to do something
> good and important go by. That is a personal choice we each make but it won't
> hurt to temper good will with caution.
>     Hopefully we can get this verified quickly and that will solve that question
> at least. Then we can figure out just how to help him in the best way.
> 
> Joan Spinner
> 
> Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> 
> > In a message dated 7/22/99 8:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:
> >
> > << However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and transportation
> >  to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.   >>
> >
> > I'd be happy to send a modest check to help with pocket money.  Should I send
> > directly to the address?  Payable to whom?  Any other suggestions to do
> > something as a group?  Ralph to coordinate?  Any volunteers?
> >
> > Sandy Kramer
> > Miami, FL
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From: Mark Zen <canoeist_at_netbox.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 11:11:22 -0600 (MDT)
Joan asked for some kind of verification, so here is what i wrote her, she
asked that i share it with the group....

--
this is indeed maligiaq, the address is the same as where i picked him up
from, before he performed his demonstrations for the RMSKC's "Paddlefest"
the email address listed is the address i have been corresponding with
geno from...

and out your way, joy hecht [sp?] can verify who _i_ am ;-)

mark


On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote:

> 
> Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > In a message dated 7/22/99 8:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:
> > 
> > << However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and transportation
> >  to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.   >>
> > 
> > I'd be happy to send a modest check to help with pocket money.  Should I send
> > directly to the address?  Payable to whom?  Any other suggestions to do
> > something as a group?  Ralph to coordinate?  Any volunteers?
> > 
> > Sandy Kramer
> > Miami, FL
> 
> 
> I would not be a good coordinator on this one as I don't know the man or
> his dad, don't live near Montreal etc.  But what you propose is a good
> idea.
> 
> Just speaking off the top of my head, I might suggest sending a check to
> his dad whose name and address is in the original posting.  Make it out
> to his dad and indicate on it somewhere that it is to help Maligiaq's
> funding for the race.
> 
> I am astounded at the reaction thusfar.  Kirk Olsen sent the posting on
> to the Baidarka listserver.  Joe Pylka sent it on to the NE Paddlers
> bulletin board etc.  John Winters also got the request directly and is
> working on a way to help (I wonder if John's good friend and fellow
> Canadian, Tim Sponsons, could lend a hand :-)).  What a helpful group!!!
> 
> best,
> 
> ralph
> 
> Here is the dad's address, etc. again:
> 
> Geno Padilla
> 3100 Wood Ave., Lot L-11
> Colorado Springs, CO 80907
> Home Tele:  719-630-8804
> E-Mail:  GENPAD_at_JUNO.COM


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po box 474                   </     [\/              [_|   [_\
ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----')      (`----|-------\-')
#~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~
http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler  [index to club websites i administer]

Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers
The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page 
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From: Mattson, Timothy G <timothy.g.mattson_at_intel.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 10:27:05 -0700
Hey, I was wondering. Can one of you who have spent time with Maligiaq tell
us how he pronounces his name?

--Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mark Zen [SMTP:canoeist_at_netbox.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, July 22, 1999 10:11 AM
> To:	paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net
> Subject:	Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
> 
> Joan asked for some kind of verification, so here is what i wrote her, she
> asked that i share it with the group....
> 
> --
> this is indeed maligiaq, the address is the same as where i picked him up
> from, before he performed his demonstrations for the RMSKC's "Paddlefest"
> the email address listed is the address i have been corresponding with
> geno from...
> 
> and out your way, joy hecht [sp?] can verify who _i_ am ;-)
> 
> mark
> 
> 
> On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 7/22/99 8:00:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> > > rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:
> > > 
> > > << However, Maligiaq will not be able to afford lodging and
> transportation
> > >  to and from the bus station and and between the race sites.   >>
> > > 
> > > I'd be happy to send a modest check to help with pocket money.  Should
> I send
> > > directly to the address?  Payable to whom?  Any other suggestions to
> do
> > > something as a group?  Ralph to coordinate?  Any volunteers?
> > > 
> > > Sandy Kramer
> > > Miami, FL
> > 
> > 
> > I would not be a good coordinator on this one as I don't know the man or
> > his dad, don't live near Montreal etc.  But what you propose is a good
> > idea.
> > 
> > Just speaking off the top of my head, I might suggest sending a check to
> > his dad whose name and address is in the original posting.  Make it out
> > to his dad and indicate on it somewhere that it is to help Maligiaq's
> > funding for the race.
> > 
> > I am astounded at the reaction thusfar.  Kirk Olsen sent the posting on
> > to the Baidarka listserver.  Joe Pylka sent it on to the NE Paddlers
> > bulletin board etc.  John Winters also got the request directly and is
> > working on a way to help (I wonder if John's good friend and fellow
> > Canadian, Tim Sponsons, could lend a hand :-)).  What a helpful group!!!
> > 
> > best,
> > 
> > ralph
> > 
> > Here is the dad's address, etc. again:
> > 
> > Geno Padilla
> > 3100 Wood Ave., Lot L-11
> > Colorado Springs, CO 80907
> > Home Tele:  719-630-8804
> > E-Mail:  GENPAD_at_JUNO.COM
> 
> 
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> mark zen                      o,    o__              o_/|   o_.
> po box 474                   </     [\/              [_|   [_\
> ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----')      (`----|-------\-')
> #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~
> http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler  [index to club websites i administer]
> 
> Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers
> The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page 
> --
> Fortune:
> Our greatest glory is not in never falling, 
> but in rising every time we fall. 
> --Confucius
> 
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From: Jennifer Joy <jjoy_at_tri.sbc.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 13:10:36 -0500 (CDT)
Ditto on the Mark Zen comments (Maligiaq has been passed from friend to
friend somewhat) that the letter is verifiable.  John Heath was at the
center of the distribution universe for a while.  If someone is still
in doubt you could contact John for final verification.

On pronouncing his name....

My best phonetic impression is ma-lee-gee-ak  (hard gee, like geese, NOT
"gee, I missed the bus")

The end of the sylable is sort of swallowed.  The Greenlandic language
is really hard, but fun to try and learn.  The "ll" is a killer.  You
put your tongue to the roof of your mouth and sort of blow around it.
That combo is in the word for thank you. :)

jennifer

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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Request to help Maligiaq in Quebec
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 17:42:34 EDT
In a message dated 7/22/99 5:41:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, juliom_at_cisco.com 
writes:

<< It is not a matter of money, it is a matter of a 17 year
 old champion, who knows no French and little English, moving around in 
Quebec.
  >>
Excuuuse me, but they definitely mentioned the matter of money!

Sandy Kramer
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