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From: Grant A. Thompson <gathompson_at_bc.sympatico.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Stolen Pirouette
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 09:12:57 -0700
Andree:

Could you fill us in on how your kayak was removed from your truck?  What sort of security devices did you use?

grant



Andree Wrote:

Now my kayak has been stolen, a Pirouette S, granite in front, tangerine in back, two beaners, three red airbags, no other marks. I'll look up the serial number. Cut off my truck in Port Townsend. Luckily (for me) they left the Dawn Treader on.

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From: R. Walker <rww_at_mailbox.neosoft.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Stolen Pirouette
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 12:06:40 -0500
> Could you fill us in on how your kayak was removed from your truck?  What
> sort of security devices did you use?

It should be noted that a dremel tool will cut just about any security device
you'd care to use, either by cutting the device itself, or by removing the 
surrounding material to which it is anchored.   True security no one has, 
protection from idle teenage hands looking for mischief is about all you can 
hope for.



Richard Walker
Houston, TX
http://www.neosoft.com/~rww/kayak_log.html
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From: Andree Hurley <ahurley_at_viewit.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Stolen Pirouette
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1999 13:21:03 -0400 (EDT)
Well, I do have a lock for travelling but I"ve been lax here in Port
Townsend as it seems so safe. Some local paddlers saw it in my truck
Saturday and couldn't believe I even had one. I've been paddling in the
mornings and leaving the kayak/kayaks on the truck when I go to work,
pretty much in plain view. So really they just sliced my favorite
webbing to get the one off, and left the sea kayak. After seeing
Elizabeth the other day I'm in the mood to put somebody's head on a
stake! (Just kidding).

On Thu, 8 Jul 1999, Grant A. Thompson wrote:

> Andree:
> 
> Could you fill us in on how your kayak was removed from your truck?  What sort of security devices did you use?
> 
> grant
> 
> 
> 
> Andree Wrote:
> 
> Now my kayak has been stolen, a Pirouette S, granite in front, tangerine in back, two beaners, three red airbags, no other marks. I'll look up the serial number. Cut off my truck in Port Townsend. Luckily (for me) they left the Dawn Treader on.
> 
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> Thompson Forest Management
> 14119 Prairie Valley Road
> RR #3 S41 C53   Summerland, BC.  V0H 1Z0
> (250) 494-1492   Fax:  494-1417
> grant_at_tfm.bc.ca 
> www.tfm.bc.ca
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Andree Hurley
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From: Joan Spinner <JSpinner_at_agu.org>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Stolen Pirouette
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 14:46:38 -0400
    We found that the locks we use for the bikes work real well for the boats. We

put the cables through the seats and around the locking bar of the rack. We just
have to remember to put the cables on BEFORE we put the boats up or we have to
start all over again.
    We too lost a boat but it was from the put-in when we went to leave the bike
at the other end. Sad, but we learned there are no real safe places nor places
where you can just trust people. Lock it then trust them.

Joan

"John C. Winskill" wrote:

> I had a kayak stolen off my car in 1972 and ever since, with few
> exceptions, I have kept my boats cable locked to my vehicle.
> John Winskill
>
> David Seng wrote:
> >
> >   Grant brings up a question that I don't ever even think about, but does
> > make me curious - how many in the list use _any_ kind of security device to
> > secure their canoes/kayaks.  Myself, I just strap it down and generally
> > leave the truck unlocked - although I don't leave the keys in it....
> >
> > Dave Seng
> > Red Cherokee, Yellow and White Ascente on Yak raks.
> > Juneau, Alaska - where the thieves can't get very far.
> >
> >
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