Grant brings up a question that I don't ever even think about, but does make me curious - how many in the list use _any_ kind of security device to secure their canoes/kayaks. Myself, I just strap it down and generally leave the truck unlocked - although I don't leave the keys in it.... Dave Seng Red Cherokee, Yellow and White Ascente on Yak raks. Juneau, Alaska - where the thieves can't get very far. > -----Original Message----- > From: Grant A. Thompson [mailto:gathompson_at_bc.sympatico.ca] > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 8:13 AM > To: 'paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net' > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Stolen Pirouette > > > Andree: > > Could you fill us in on how your kayak was removed from your > truck? What sort of security devices did you use? > > grant > > > > Andree Wrote: > > Now my kayak has been stolen, a Pirouette S, granite in > front, tangerine in back, two beaners, three red airbags, no > other marks. I'll look up the serial number. Cut off my truck > in Port Townsend. Luckily (for me) they left the Dawn Treader on. > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I will follow up from David's note. I travel to Vancouver BC on occasion where kayaks are a very hot commodity. My front rack is a lockable Yakima rack but because of the weird configuration of the canopy on my truck the rear rack is a very effective home-made wooden construction. I also have a lockable Yakima cable that feeds through the kayak seat and around the locked front rack. Hopefully just the appearance of the cable and locked rack will make the bad guys go elsewhere. But like anything else if they really want it they will take it. Grant (red and white ascente, way more roads than Juneau) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thompson Forest Management 14119 Prairie Valley Road RR #3 S41 C53 Summerland, BC. V0H 1Z0 (250) 494-1492 Fax: 494-1417 grant_at_tfm.bc.ca www.tfm.bc.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I had a kayak stolen off my car in 1972 and ever since, with few exceptions, I have kept my boats cable locked to my vehicle. John Winskill David Seng wrote: > > Grant brings up a question that I don't ever even think about, but does > make me curious - how many in the list use _any_ kind of security device to > secure their canoes/kayaks. Myself, I just strap it down and generally > leave the truck unlocked - although I don't leave the keys in it.... > > Dave Seng > Red Cherokee, Yellow and White Ascente on Yak raks. > Juneau, Alaska - where the thieves can't get very far. > > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
We live in an apartment in Toronto, and don't have anywhere to store our fiberglass canoe, so it is spending the whole summer sitting on top of our car, just tied on with nylon rope (it looks like a sun hat for the car). I wasn't worried about it until now. I figured that the pukey yellow colour and abundance of scratches wouldn't make it much of a target, and it sure makes it easier to find the car in parking lots. But I'd be devastated if we lost "Tweety" so I guess I'd better figure out a safer storage solution. I was thinking of putting a couple of eyehooks into the concrete ceiling of the parking garage and hanging it over my car. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to anchor the hooks in the concrete? Irene David Seng wrote: > Grant brings up a question that I don't ever even think about, but does > make me curious - how many in the list use _any_ kind of security device to > secure their canoes/kayaks. Myself, I just strap it down and generally > leave the truck unlocked - although I don't leave the keys in it.... > > Dave Seng > Red Cherokee, Yellow and White Ascente on Yak raks. > Juneau, Alaska - where the thieves can't get very far. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Grant A. Thompson [mailto:gathompson_at_bc.sympatico.ca] > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 8:13 AM > > To: 'paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net' > > Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Stolen Pirouette > > > > > > Andree: > > > > Could you fill us in on how your kayak was removed from your > > truck? What sort of security devices did you use? > > > > grant > > > > > > > > Andree Wrote: > > > > Now my kayak has been stolen, a Pirouette S, granite in > > front, tangerine in back, two beaners, three red airbags, no > > other marks. I'll look up the serial number. Cut off my truck > > in Port Townsend. Luckily (for me) they left the Dawn Treader on. > > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I figure my lock (I'll use it all the time now) is a deterent - takes extra time to stand there and cut through it. They could break the window, open the door, and get it off. It is the Boulter Cable, which goes through the door. There have been some serious kayak theives around however, who have plans, vans, etc. As a matter of fact, someone recently put two-and-two together; there are two Eddyline Merlins posted on my stolen sea kayak page, and someone who had posted a kayaks wanted ad on Classifieds2000 (or someting) was contacted by a guy selling two Merlin's of the same description. We sent as much as we could to the original owner, who forwarded the stuff to their detective. Andree Hurley Hurley Design Communications - ICQ# 27469637 On-line Editor - http://www.canoekayak.com Other Kayaking - http://www.onwatersports.com Web Sites for Specialty Businesses - http://www.viewit.com/HDC/ *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 03:10 PM 7/8/99 -0400, Kellerin wrote: >I was >thinking of putting a couple of eyehooks into the concrete ceiling of the >parking garage and hanging it over my car. Does anyone have any suggestions >about how to anchor the hooks in the concrete? hi Irene et al! Two options. The first and best choice is to drill and install a regular concrete anchor. As this involves a minimum of a 1/4 inch hole drilled 1 1/2 inches deep into the 'crete, which might tend to annoy the building owner, a more lease-friendly option would be to use a good two part epoxy to stick a couple of steel rings to the ceiling. Strip off any paint, then clean the concrete real well with muriatic acid or concentrated vinegar and a stiff brush. You should have no problem getting a good bond; in fact the concrete will probably fracture before the epoxy. Clean 'em off with heat and a sharp chisel when you move. BTW, as I promised the gang last week, I have tried using the "Barge Cement" product on a poly (in this case Nalgene) bottle. Darned if it didn't peel right off. I scuffed the surface up real well with a rasp from a bicycle tube patch kit and tried again with better but not spectacular results. Can't really recommend that product for use on your plastic boat. So it goes. ByeBye! S. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 03:10 PM 7/8/99 -0400, Kellerin wrote: >"Tweety" so I guess I'd better figure out a safer storage solution. I was >thinking of putting a couple of eyehooks into the concrete ceiling of the >parking garage and hanging it over my car. Does anyone have any suggestions >about how to anchor the hooks in the concrete? >Irene > There are several kinds of commercial blind fittings on the market -- describe your problem to someone at a good neighborhood hardware store, not a big discount chain. The best type I've seen is a type that used to be called an "Ackerman", although it probably goes by a different name now. Basically, you drill a hole just large enough for the fitting -- say, half an inch for some -- insert the fitting, and tighten up on it with the appropriate bolt, say about a quarter inch. All this involves a fairly large drill motor and concrete bit. The problem is that the pull on the bolt is going to be straight out, and such fittings aren't at their strongest in that setup. Also, if this is a rental space, I'd want to be darn sure that you've cleared it with the management before you start putting half-inch holes in the overhead. Hope this helps. -- Wes *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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