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From: David Seng <David_at_wainet.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] re-enter & roll, what works for me.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:34:39 -0800
> From: John Bartlett [mailto:bartlett_at_camosun.bc.ca]

snip 
> 
> On capsizing:
> 1. grab paddle and painter

Good idea - the two things you never ever want to let go of.

> 2. secure paddle under bungee or strap behind seat

I prefer to hang onto my paddle - especially in rough water.  Securing the
paddle (and having it stay secure) can waste time that could be better spent
getting out of the water immediately.

> 3. take an orange garbage bag from pfd, inflate by waving in wind

Here's where you lost me.  The question that came to my mind is why?  If
inflating a paddle float that will fit tightly on the paddle blade is too
difficult, why not use a foam float?  Or partially inflate the paddlefloat
while on shore before departing so that it only takes a few puffs to finish
it off.

> 4. allow a few litres of water to enter bag (for ballast) and 
> tie bag's
> neck around paddle

Seems like a lot of work to get this bag secured.  I don't think you'll
really need water in the bag as ballast.  You'll be putting plenty of weight
on it when you get up on it.

> 5. slide aboard and lean on bag side of boat for stability 
> while bailing
> or pumping 

This works. 

The whole thing could probably work, I'd just advise trying it out several
times before you place any confidence in it (that goes for any self rescue
technique!).  Do it first in calm conditions and work up to conditions that
might really cause you to flip that folbot.

Dave Seng
Juneau, Alaska
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From: Howes, Damon - MAJ <howesd_at_eustis.army.mil>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] re-enter & roll, what works for me.
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:22:54 -0400
Okay, let me add my two cents on this one.  And it comes from a geographic
bias - Australia - albeit I am living in the States for a short while.

One method that is used reasonably extensively is to re-enter and roll,
attach the spray skirt and use an electric pump to extract the water.
Advantages: hands free, so you can paddle away from the conditions that
tipped you in the first place; very quick and you don't need a whole lot of
expensive products requiring storage and time to set/blow up.

To answer Doug's question about a paddle leash: I use one.  When I am upside
down having pulled myself into the cockpit (two hands required, I can lean
forward and grab the leash, pull the paddle to me, set up and roll up.  My
thoughts are not to rush it.

I use an Attwood battery operated pump (3 x D cells) which I secure behind
my seat.  One push of the button and the pump starts, thread the hose up
through the sprayskirt and out the water goes.  I also use the pump to
extract the water out of our kids wading pool.  It has proved itself on
numerous occasions.  You can look at Laurie Ford's web page for a detailed
description of a fixed electric pump
(http://www.tassie.net.au/~lford/index.htm#links
<http://www.tassie.net.au/~lford/index.htm#links>  ).  

For a detailed look at the problem of getting water out of a flooded
cockpit, take a gander at the article by Andrew Eddy on the NSW SKC web page
at http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/mag/35/pumps1.html
<http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/mag/35/pumps1.html>  and the one other one
is about the use of foot pumps described by Norm Sanders at
http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/mag/35/pumps2.html
<http://www.nswseakayaker.asn.au/mag/35/pumps2.html>  

The essence of this method is the strong emphasis on paddling skills and the
ability to re-enter and roll.  This ability is often the focus of club
paddles and training days.  But then our water is (generally) so much
warmer.....

Regards,

Damon Howes
Yorktown, VA

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