Re: [Paddlewise] Fore and aft trim

Snide remark flag on:

They do and call them skegs.

Snide remark flag off.
=^..^=
--Mel--
Mel Lammers
mslammers_at_earthlink.net
----- Original Message -----
From: BaysideBob <vaughan_at_jps.net>
To: 735769 <735769_at_ican.net>; <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fore and aft trim


> Like it or not, the debate has begun.
>
> I don't make boats, I just paddle them.
>
> My present boats don't have rudders, prior
> ones did.
>
> >From a consumer point of view:
>
> Bad about rudders:
>     They cost money
>     They can brake
>     They work by creating drag
>     They get in the way of everything
>         They flop around on the car-top and hit you in
>         the head when you load and unload your boat.
>         I paddle alone.  When I end up outside the boat
>         I like to shinny up the stern and plop back into
>         the seat.  That whole rudder, cable mess gets
>         into the way (and hurts).
>         Screw paddle floats, you can freeze
>         trying to mount, inflate and work them
>         while you try to hang onto your boat, paddle
>         glasses or whatever  you forgot to tie down.
>
> Good about rudders:
>         Going a long way in one direction
>         with any sort of cross wind my arm
>         gets real tired from paddling mostly
>         on one side.  I'm no athlete but I do
>         get on the water 3-4 days a week
>         and I still dread long straight shots
>         with a cross wind.  All boats are bad
>         in cross-winds, some just less bad
>         than others.
>
> How about:
>     Airplanes have trim tabs.  That's
>     all a rudder really does for a sea kayak.
>    Couldn't someone make something
>     minimal just to trim the boat to port or
>     starbord for wind?  A little simple
>     something(s) without all the
>     cables, peddles, flopping mess of
>     rudders?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: 735769 <735769_at_ican.net>
> To: <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 1999 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Fore and aft trim
>
>
> > Dan wrote;
> >
> >
> >
> > >John Winters wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ...<snip>...  Some of the old timers on this list may recall the
> > >> rudder Vs no-rudder debate on Wave-Length in pre-Paddlewise. If
> > >> I recall correctly the down-under contingent argued rather forcefully
> > >> that the rudder accomplished this aspect of control more easily since
> > >> one could not shift weight in the boat easily or as smoothly while
> > >> underway but could steer easily all the time.
> > >>
> > >> I mention this not to restart the old pro and anti-rudder debate ...
> > >
> > >Yeah, right! :-)
> > >
> >
> > Seriously, I did not want to start the rudder debate and I apologize
> > profusely if I did. Just to prove it I refuse to participate.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John Winters
> > Redwing Designs
> > Web site address, http://home.ican.net/~735769
> >
> >
> >
> >
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