To all paddlewisers: I've put up a page of (high band-width) photos from my trip down east in August -- 11 disposable-camera-quality photos of kayaking heaven -- if you want to see down east in Maine during an unusually calm and serene August week, here it is! http://home.maine.rr.com/aeb Anne Burton *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Talking about photos.... there's a great on-line camera at the following URL. You can actually take a photo using your monitor, bring it up on the screen,,,, and forward it to anyone. Check it out: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3072/camera2.html ---------- From: Anne Burton[SMTP:aburton1_at_maine.rr.com] Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 11:00 AM To: PaddleWise Subject: [Paddlewise] Down East Photos To all paddlewisers: I've put up a page of (high band-width) photos from my trip down east in August -- 11 disposable-camera-quality photos of kayaking heaven -- if you want to see down east in Maine during an unusually calm and serene August week, here it is! http://home.maine.rr.com/aeb Anne Burton *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ *************************************************************************** *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 02:20 PM 09/17/1999 -0300, you wrote: >Talking about photos.... there's a great on-line camera at the following URL. You can actually take a photo using your monitor, bring it up on the screen,,,, and forward it to anyone. Check it out: > >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3072/camera2.html Wow! That's amazing! How d'ya suppose they got my monitor to feed back my image like that? I never realized they worked both ways! 'Course ya realize what that means as far as privacy don'tcha? Man, every time you're on-line big brother could be lookin' in, not to mention that nasty li'l hacker dude down the street . . .;~O ByeBye! S. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 02:00 PM 9/17/99 -0400, Anne Burton wrote: >To all paddlewisers: > >I've put up a page of (high band-width) photos from my trip >down east in August -- 11 disposable-camera-quality photos of >kayaking heaven -- if you want to see down east in Maine >during an unusually calm and serene August week, here it is! Nice pictures. What kind of boat was that red&white kayak in the shot about three from the top. It looks a bit like a Necky Looksha but it looks too short. Is that a Malone of Maine paddle on it? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
The boat's a Necky Looksha IV S, probably looking a little foreshortened in the photo (16' 6") ....yes, it's a Malone of Maine paddle, too --- love it but was unable to use it during the trip, as I could not keep up with others if using it. I assumed I couldn't keep up with it because I am fairly new to Greenland style paddling, but the guide said he knew very few people who could keep up with euro style paddlers touring.....or it may just be I don't yet have a good Greenland technique... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Anne Burton wrote: > To all paddlewisers: > > I've put up a page of (high band-width) photos from my trip > down east in August -- 11(snip) Beautiful!! Thanks for sharing:)! *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Talking about photos.... there's a great on-line camera at the following URL. You can actually take a photo using your monitor, bring it up on the screen,,,, and forward it to anyone. Check it out: > >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/3072/camera2.html > Wow! Ain't science grand! Shoulda shaved closer this morning, I guess.... *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Oh No! The Euro/Greenland paddle can of worms has been opened again. Matt Broze http://www.marinerkayaks.com -----Original Message----- From: aburton1_at_maine.rr.com <aburton1_at_maine.rr.com> >The boat's a Necky Looksha IV S, probably looking a little >foreshortened in the photo (16' 6") ....yes, it's a Malone of >Maine paddle, too --- love it but was unable to use it during >the trip, as I could not keep up with others if using it. I >assumed I couldn't keep up with it because I am fairly new >to Greenland style paddling, but the guide said he knew >very few people who could keep up with euro style >paddlers touring.....or it may just be I don't yet have a >good Greenland technique... > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
>Oh No! The Euro/Greenland paddle can of worms has been opened again. >Matt Broze >http://www.marinerkayaks.com > >From: aburton1_at_maine.rr.com <aburton1_at_maine.rr.com> >>SNIP >>I assumed I couldn't keep up with it because I am fairly new >>to Greenland style paddling, but the guide said he knew >>very few people who could keep up with euro style >>paddlers touring.....or it may just be I don't yet have a >>good Greenland technique... In all fairness, the original poster is quite correct about not keeping up with a Greenland paddle. I find that I constantly have to slow down when using my Greenland paddle in order for those laggards with their Euro blades to keep up :^) In all seriousness, it is all in the technique. In my experience poor technique (the all arms, "plop-it-in-all-pull-it-back" approach) applied to a Euro blade will often give better forward stroke speeds than with a Greenland paddle. There are a variety of forward stroke techniques (angling the blade forward, sliding strokes, etc) that can take some time to learn with the Greenland paddle. Applying Euro technique to a Greenland stick (and vice-versa) will be bound to disappoint you. The differences in technique are nothing mysterious and are easy to do, but they vary enough from "Euro-teaching" that many folks never learn them or require many years of trial-and-error experimentation on their own. You may also need to "unlearn" some habits which can prove very difficult to do. Sure you can slosh along using any technique that you want but whether you are using a Greenland stick, a spooned Euro blade, a wing, a canoe paddle or whatever, you have to expect to invest adequate time to learn the "personality" and quirks of your chosen tool. John Heath is coming out with a new video around Christmas that not only includes above and below water sequences of Maligiaq Padilla (the Greenland Champion) rolling and bracing but also has footage of Maligiaq demonstrating and explaining approximately *five* common forward stroke techniques used in Greenland. Keep and eye tuned to John's webpage at <http://www.fbtc.net/~jdheath/> for future details. This should be a good resource and hopefully will end some of the "it-must-be-done-this-way" dogma that is currently impeding Greenland-style instruction from self-taught instructors in North America today. I also hope that the focus for learning proper "Greenland-style" technique will finally be placed upon the Greenlanders themselves where it belongs. Greg Stamer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Hi Paddle Wise-rs! I'm a newbie coming out of lurk mode for a quick question... Reading about your trips and seeing all the wonderful pictures is a great motivator for me to develop skills which will allow me to paddle in such lovely places. I do wonder, however, what kinds of cameras you use. Are they waterproof? How do you protect them on trips? Any other photography-related suggestions? Thanks in advance! -Jessica >if you want to see down east in Maine >during an unusually calm and serene August week, here it is! > >http://home.maine.rr.com/aeb > >Anne Burton *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
> > I do wonder, however, what kinds of cameras you use. Are they > waterproof? How do you protect them on trips? Any other > photography-related suggestions? I use the same camera(s) and lens that I use normally on land. I just choose what I am taking, depending on what kind of trip I'm going on. At the very least, I will carry a little point and shoot camera(yashica T-4), and a small tripod called a "ultrapod". On other trips, if taking pictures is the main reason for the trip, then I will have a couple of SLR bodies, and a full complament of lenses,filters, etc, along with a full sized tripod. A polarizer filter can be useful at times for reducing contrast on the water and to remove reflections. I find that it is most useful after I am safely on shore tho. Getting too wrapped up in composing a picture can case some exciting moments! I really take no special precausions sp? on water proofing anything. I protect against splash/rain, but that's all. Depending on where I was paddling/skills, I would change this to a water proof hard case tho! Even then I would have one camera that was easily within reach. I normally paddle inland lakes/rivers and avoid conditions that would likely get water in my folding kayaks. I do most of my paddling during the fall through early summer months(jet skis leave and the geese arrive), and don't dress for emersion, so turning over and getting a camera wet, during the winter, is my last concern. :>) Take something that you don't mind getting out and using. A great camera in a waterproof container, buried in the end of your kayak, won't take as good a picture as the cheap one that you have handy, and use. James *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I use a Pentax WR-90. It's a fairly inexpensive, water-resistant camera with a 90mm zoom. That's not nearly enough of a zoom for decent wildlife photography, but it's a pretty decent, fairly lightweight and durable little rig. Mine has survived unscathed several rolls and even some extended out-of-boat swim sessions in salt water. (Some idiot who knows better forgot to take the camera out of it's traveling spot stuffed under the pfd). When I lived down south and paddled WW it frequently traveled in the bottom of my Encore with at least a little water sloshing around (one of the unavoidable features of paddling an OC-1). Having said that - I'm not that good of a photographer. I'm sure that if you're really into taking good pictures that you'd want something more than a simple little point and shoot camera. Dave Seng Juneau, Alaska > -----Original Message----- > From: Jessica Tobiason [mailto:jtobiason_at_hbs.edu] > Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 9:43 AM > To: aburton1_at_maine.rr.com; PaddleWise > Subject: [Paddlewise] Trip Photography: (was Down East Photos) > > > Hi Paddle Wise-rs! > > I'm a newbie coming out of lurk mode for a quick question... > > Reading about your trips and seeing all the wonderful > pictures is a great > motivator for me to develop skills which will allow me to > paddle in such > lovely places. > > I do wonder, however, what kinds of cameras you use. Are they > waterproof? How do you protect them on trips? Any other > photography-related suggestions? > > Thanks in advance! > -Jessica > > > >if you want to see down east in Maine > >during an unusually calm and serene August week, here it is! > > > >http://home.maine.rr.com/aeb > > > >Anne Burton > > ************************************************************** > ************* > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ************************************************************** > ************* > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Jessica Tobiason wrote: > I do wonder, however, what kinds of cameras you use. Are they > waterproof? How do you protect them on trips? Any other > photography-related suggestions? Jessica, I have used both the Minolta Weathermatic and the Pentax WR-90. I had the same problem with leakage on the Minolta others have mentioned. The first event was my fault: I dropped the camera and broke one of the latch dogs off, allowing river water inside. The camera survived that, and was repaired by Minolta to supposed water-tightness. About 6 months later, while it was in the hands of another for a week-long trip, somehow salt water got inside and the camera fried (the batteries discharged through a salt-water-shorted circuit). Impressive meltdown, but did not do much for the film! <g> I was surprised at the leakage, because the Minolta has a (looks to me, anyway) bombproof seal. Could be the person I loaned the camera to dinged it or accidentally popped the back, but I'll never know. Dead camera. Optics were OK, but not outstanding (see below). My experience with the WR-90 has been better. Despite what looks like a cheesy seal, the damn thing has not leaked a drop in three seasons of regular, heavy use! Admittedly, it has not been dropped or loaned out, but it just keeps on workin'! The other aspect of the WR-90 I like is the zoom. I use it a lot, and it makes composition really easy. I do not understand how Pentax did this, but the zoom lens slides in and out without wicking water past the O-ring which seals the lens to the body. Heard from a Pentax tech rep there is some special surface on the lens/body interface (and a Goretex membrane across the vent inside the camera) which makes this possible. Note: I have never zoomed the lens OUT when it was immersed or nastily wet. I suspect if you did, it might leak. And, it is not warranteed for immersion deeper than about a foot, IIRC. On the down side, a friend who is more particular 6han I am about clarity in his photos ran a couple rolls of film through a WR-90 and pronounced the optics to be very average. I've seen his photos (through Nikons, I think), and his are significantly sharper and clearer than mine. OTOH, the Pentax unit stays under my left knee in the cockpit, and gets out to dance anytime I want it. Result: Rich has a smaller number of really primo photos (especially scenics from dry land or in camp), but after a trip, he always comes to me to get "snapshots" of on-the-water stuff. Good luck finding a WR-90. I hear the WR-105 is an inferior unit, and the 90's are in short supply. I'm NOT selling mine! Oh, yeah, on the water-spots on the lens problem: I got a small (4 in x 6 in) piece of chamois I keep in a plastic bag inside a PFD pocket, and it ELIMINATES water spots on the lens of the camera and on my glasses. Highly recommended! One other thing about the WR-90: it is dead black, and BARELY floats in salt water. I threaded the strap through a day-glo yellow key chain float so I could find it after a capsize. A friend who did not have his 90 so equipped could not find it after a wet exit (mandated by a negative interaction with a boomer in Barkley Sound). -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 9/20/99 5:38:08 PM, n5yyx_at_etsc.net writes: << Take something that you don't mind getting out and using. A great camera in a waterproof container, buried in the end of your kayak, won't take as good a picture as the cheap one that you have handy, and use. >> AMEN! now it lives in the deck bag and I pull stuff out of the bag with the prayer that ALL will be will IN the bag. point-and-shoot, waterproof, recyclable. joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Jessica - The camera I like the best for kayaking is a Pentax IQ zoom 105. A couple of other people have referred to it as "an inferior unit" but my own luck with it has been excellent - and those who know me will vouch for the fact that I'm a pretty fussy person. It's "splashproof" but it's not submersible. If the weather's bad I keep it in a ziplock bag in the front pocket of my PFD. It has acceptable zoom capacity and the image quality and color rendition are quite good. It won't accept filters, but I carry a polarizing filter with me anyway, and just hold it up in front of the lens, if it's needed, when taking pictures once I'm *out* of the kayak - something I wouldn't attempt while paddling. On land I prefer an Olympus IS-2, which is more flexible in several different ways.... The waterproof disposbales haven't worked nearly as well for me as they have for others. Underwater, I've gotten a few good photos with them. While paddling, for whatever reason, I've not gotten acceptable images. On the other hand, I really like James Lofton's comment that "A great camera in a waterproof container, buried in the end of your kayak, won't take as good a picture as the cheap one that you have handy, and use." That's good advice! Bill Hansen *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
|I protect against splash/rain, but that's all. Depending on where I was |paddling/skills, I would change this to a water proof hard case tho! Even |then I would have one camera that was easily within reach. Interesting that this subject just came up. I've been pondering this problem myself over the last couple of weeks. I'm trying to use my kayak to get to places that are difficult to get to from land, especially with 30-40 pounds of photo gear. I also want to be able to take shots from the kayak as I paddle along. My Looksha IV ain't got alot of storage space in the cockpit so what to do? In the past I have taken a large dry bag and used that to protect my photo gear. Very bulky and no real access when on the water even with the bag in the cockpit. Done it. Taken some pictures but not an ideal solution. My next idea is some pelican boxes to protect the gear. I'm afraid I'm going to have to get three or four to fit the gear in the boat. I'm going to look at a box that will hold one camera and one lense to keep in the cockpit. If I could fit another camera body and lense in the same box while not filling up the cockpit so much the better. I don't think that will happen but at least this way I'll have protected access to the most likely used gear when on the water. I was going to look at the boxes this weekend but Floyd Fun prevented this. Jordan Lake here in the Triangle of North Carolina, USA, has the largest population of Bald Eagles on the east coast with the exception of Florida. If I go to the northern part of the lake I'll usually see three or four eagles. If I get back to a part of the lake that is very shallow, thus keeping the power boats out, I've seen the eagles catching fish and fighting each other over same. This an the Osprey nest, that keepsgetting lower and lower as the tree decays, just calls for taking great bird pictures from the kayak. The problem in doing so is having the equipment that keeps you far enough away from the birds so as not disturb them yet still get the photograph. Which begats the problem of access to the geer and, in this case, having a stable enough boat to be confident in letting go of your paddle to operate you camera without "doing a turtle." I liked that expression! 8-) The last part has me worried. I mentioned to my SO the other week that it sure would be nice to have a small double so we could paddle together, not like the subject a post I HAD to make a bit ago! Course I could use the boat as a photo platform! 8-) I don't think she bought into the idea! 8-) Anyone have ideas on how to stablize the boat while taking pictures? I've thought of rigging the paddle float..... I'm not going to mention sp...ns and Sp...nMan! 8-) Later.... Dan McCarty *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com wrote: >VARIOUS SNIPS< > The last part has me worried. I mentioned to my SO the other week that it sure > would be nice to have a small double so we could paddle together, not like the > subject a post I HAD to make a bit ago! Course I could use the boat as a photo > platform! 8-) > > I don't think she bought into the idea! 8-) > > Anyone have ideas on how to stablize the boat while taking pictures? Sounds to me like you are up to "needing" a new kayak. Tell the wife to look at it this way.., if you flip and ruin a camera, it will co$t big bucks, not to mention the prize winning shots that were in it. You could also compare the price of a new kayak to a new canon EOS(water resistant)along with a full set of canon IS(image stabilized)lens. :>) Seriously, have you checked out one of those camera bags by SUNDOG? I have never used one, but they look like a good way to carry a camera and a short zoom lens outside your spray skirt, altho I must plead ignorant to how wet the decks get on most kayaks. When water starts going over my folbot it's too rough to take good steady photo's of much, at least for me(telephoto shots). For a camera bag, I use a coleman soft ice chest, either the 6pack or the 12 pack, depending what camera and lens combo I want real handy. They are insulated and designed to keep ice/water in, so work to keep water out(from the floor). I keep the rest of my camera gear in it's normal bag(tamrac) and have a trash compacter bag handy to wrap around it. When I'm in my big folbot(an old super)I have a hard shell ice chest(48qt) sitting in the forward seat area, and that's where all my "extra" camera gear is carried. None of this is worth anything if you paddle in differant conditions than I do or have something less stable than a folder. Without sounding too biased toward folding kayaks(I am), just can't emagine myself trying to phograph a bunch of cranes, geese, ducks, rising out of the morning fog, the light an unearthy gold, and me swinging, focusing, bracketing, through maybe a 75-300mm zoom, and all the while thinking about my kayak turning "turtle"(did I mention that there was ice forming on the water)....not me!!! :>) You sound to me like photo taking is a big enough passion for you to own at least one "platform". One good picture sale should pay for it. James *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Dan; To stabalize your boat quickly and easily for shooting pictures you could try a modified "paddlefloat" attachment system on your front deck: An eyelet bolted on the left with a piece of line passed through it and a knot tied in it, a hook bolted close to the cockpit, another eyelet with the line passing through bolted on the right side, and a jam cleat beyond that. Simply lay your paddle across the deck, lay the line over it and the hook, reach forward and pull the line tight and snug it into the jam cleat. It's a rock solid attachment and won't move all around like bungies. Just having your paddle blade sticking out to dampen any sudden movements is often enough to make a shot possible. It isn't neccessary to use the paddlefloat to greatly increase your stability. I don't like to use my good camera on the water (I paddle almost exclusively on salt water) so I keep a Nikonos IV-A with a 28mm lens on the deck and a 80mm lens handy. It's versitile enough for using on the water for me. The camera I carry with me when I'm kayaking and use on land is a Leica R5 with a 28-70 3.5 lens and a 70-210 3.5 lens. It gives me enough latitude without risking damage to my favorite camera. John Winskill ----- Original Message ----- From: <dmccarty_at_us.ibm.com> To: <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Trip Photography: (was Down East Photos) > |I protect against splash/rain, but that's all. Depending on where I was > |paddling/skills, I would change this to a water proof hard case tho! Even > |then I would have one camera that was easily within reach. > > Interesting that this subject just came up. I've been pondering this problem > myself over the last couple of weeks. > > I'm trying to use my kayak to get to places that are difficult to get to from > land, especially with 30-40 pounds of photo gear. I also want to be able to > take shots from the kayak as I paddle along. My Looksha IV ain't got alot of > storage space in the cockpit so what to do? > > In the past I have taken a large dry bag and used that to protect my photo gear. > Very bulky and no real access when on the water even with the bag in the > cockpit. Done it. Taken some pictures but not an ideal solution. > > My next idea is some pelican boxes to protect the gear. I'm afraid I'm going to > have to get three or four to fit the gear in the boat. I'm going to look at a > box that will hold one camera and one lense to keep in the cockpit. If I could > fit another camera body and lense in the same box while not filling up the > cockpit so much the better. I don't think that will happen but at least this > way I'll have protected access to the most likely used gear when on the water. > > I was going to look at the boxes this weekend but Floyd Fun prevented this. > > Jordan Lake here in the Triangle of North Carolina, USA, has the largest > population of Bald Eagles on the east coast with the exception of Florida. If I > go to the northern part of the lake I'll usually see three or four eagles. If I > get back to a part of the lake that is very shallow, thus keeping the power > boats out, I've seen the eagles catching fish and fighting each other over same. > This an the Osprey nest, that keepsgetting lower and lower as the tree decays, > just calls for taking great bird pictures from the kayak. The problem in doing > so is having the equipment that keeps you far enough away from the birds so as > not disturb them yet still get the photograph. Which begats the problem of > access to the geer and, in this case, having a stable enough boat to be > confident in letting go of your paddle to operate you camera without "doing a > turtle." I liked that expression! 8-) > > The last part has me worried. I mentioned to my SO the other week that it sure > would be nice to have a small double so we could paddle together, not like the > subject a post I HAD to make a bit ago! Course I could use the boat as a photo > platform! 8-) > > I don't think she bought into the idea! 8-) > > Anyone have ideas on how to stablize the boat while taking pictures? > I've thought of rigging the paddle float..... I'm not going to mention sp...ns > and Sp...nMan! 8-) > > Later.... > Dan McCarty > > > > *************************************************************************** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > *************************************************************************** > *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
While stabilizing the kayak is important, there are a number of other factors which impact stability. First, the shutter speed can compensate for some minor boat movement; the faster the shutter, the less visible movement in the image (the drawback to fast shutter speeds, is a decrease in the depth of field [the amount of area in front and behind the primary subject which will be in focus]). Second, the speed of film you are using. Faster films will permit you to use a faster shutter speed and thus reduce movement. Today's fast films are very good. Third, the focal length of the lens will impact movement. The longer focal length lenses are naturally more difficult to use handheld. Again, a fast shutter speed becomes almost a given using say a 300mm lens. Finally, there is your own ability to hold the camera steady for the duration of the exposure. Another option, albeit expensive, is to use one the canon lenses with image stabilization. I have never used one but the writeups are impressive. And they are expensive. With regard to waterproof camera or housings, I have successfully used an EIWA flexible housing with my Minolta 7xi and 28-80 zoom lens. The housing costs around $190 from large NYC camera stores. I have used the camera and housing above and below the water with good success. Good luck, sid *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
I was going to take this off line but it could be of interested to others. Plus I'm gonna have to try some line art to figure this out. I'll let our resident LineArtExpertArtist judge the results... 8-) |An eyelet bolted on the left with a piece of line passed through it and a |knot tied in it, a hook bolted close to the cockpit, another eyelet with the |line passing through bolted on the right side, and a jam cleat beyond that. |Simply lay your paddle across the deck, lay the line over it and the hook, |reach forward and pull the line tight and snug it into the jam cleat. It's |a rock solid attachment and won't move all around like bungies. Just having |your paddle blade sticking out to dampen any sudden movements is often |enough to make a shot possible. It isn't neccessary to use the paddlefloat |to greatly increase your stability. Grrr.... Forget about the line art! TOTAL failure! The kayak "picture" was looking VERY offensive! And this is a family forum. We try to keep it clean, don't we Sandy? 8-) By the way Sandy, was that a WHITE feather for your paddle? Or Yum Yum Yellow? LOL! So the eyelets left and right are the same distance from the cockpit? With the same line running from the left eyelet to the right one and then down to the jam cleat near the cockpit? |<---- paddle blade in the air? | /--------+--------------------------- \ O---+-----------cleat / | | ------------------ <- Bow \ | | | C O C K P I T | / | | ------------------ \ O hook? /--------+--------------------------- | |<---- paddle blade in the water? The hook is pointing up? And hook is a U shaped hook? If I have this right, the cleated line to starboard, how that for sounding nautical, actually holds the paddle rigid. The cleat really holds the paddle? The idea of using my camera gear from the kayak gives me the willeys but its the only way I'm gonna be able to take the pictures, or attempt to. I think a double might be stable enough but I really don't wanna spend the money and I like the speed of the LookshaIV. And by stable I mean I'll be able to focus, no pun intended, on my subject without loosing "balance" and turning turtle. Plus the double would have more room for the gear. But the cost of a fiberglass double would buy a lot of camera gear! 8-) Thanks... Dan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Since were on the subject, has any "casual photographers" tried one of those Aquapac camera cases? They appear to be a bag in which you place a point-and-shoot camera. The bag has a clear lens (with a cover) on one side for the camera to shoot through. They look like they might do a fair job and are inexpensive. (I'm not looking for National Geographic quality photos) Just curious - thanks. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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