Zur Nachricht vom 20. Sep 99 11:36 > Hi Ferdinand. > I'm associated with the Elba Sea Kayak Center/Sea Kayak Italy, though I > live in California. > I'm eager to hear about your trip. People are always asking me about > kayaking around Elba, and I'd love to hear about it from your perspective. > We set up day trips from the town of Marciana Marina. This includes putting > the kayaks on a cart and paddling the south side of the island as well. > We stay in a Marciana Marina hotel. > How was the camping? Did you camp or stay in hotels? > Did you encounter any difficulties? > (I well know of the pleasures...) Hi Barbara, paddling around Elba was great fun. Getting there definitely not. We tried by train and ferry from Germany and apart from the usual train hassles (where do you put 4 backpacks on a train, connections that don't work etc.) the ferry operator (Moby lines) provided a very poor service for those without a car: They have no luggage carts for the long walk from train to ferry and all the luggage had to be carried up a long and small flight of stairs. Once on the island, fun started almost right away. We took a taxi to a campground near Porteferraio, but when we found it to be far from the water, decided to head out the same day and found ourselves a lonely beach to camp on. We kept doing that for most of our trip, although finding lonely beaches became difficult on the southern and western coast, impossible when we reached the northern coast. So we had to stay on commercial campgrounds for a few days (very expensive, 20-30 $US per night). We found a number of beatiful beaches that way, but later in the trip looking for a campsite became quite a hassle because it often took two to three hours and in September with sun setting around 8 that cuts down on the time to play. The sea around Elba was unexpectedly clean, though the beaches where not. Elba's characteristic beach plant is the plastic waterbottle (aqua minerale due litros) and you'll find it everywhere. Same with toilet paper: Everything said about long live of toilet paper on the beach in our recent discussion proved to be true! A whole new aspect to that discussion: Since Elba has lots of gravel beaches you often come about little "stone graves". Diving from the beaches and from the boat was great fun. The water is very clear and of an inviting light blue and even in September it is so warm that you can stay in for an hour without getting cold. Just using a snorcle and a diving mask, we saw lots of different fish, although I never got so see anything bigger then 20 cm. Water conditions were perfect for sea kayaking beginners like us. No currents, hardly noticible tides and low winds most of the time. Mind you, this is from the perspective of a Nautiraid double which is extremely stable. We did have winds of 4-5 Beaufort, but except for me getting a bit sea sick in the beginning, we had no problems with our boat at all. (Thanks again to Ralf Diaz' great book that encouraged us to buy a Nautiraid in spite of dealers advice). Still, I strongly recommend to check the marine wheather reports that are on display in all the little ports before you go out. We were told that there can be much stronger winds a times. The only problems we did encounter was taking off from some of the beaches. We learned that getting your loaded boat into (but not under) water on a steep gravel beach can be quite a challenge once winds pick up a little bit. But since all the beaches we found can also be reached from land, that was just challenge of skills and not a real problem. And of course we suffered quite a bit when we found those beatiful camp sites up a rocky coast but - inexperienced as we are - saw no way to safely get our boat on top of the rocks or anchor it. Which by the way is the only complaint I have abour our folding kayak: Even with most of the gear taken out, the boat is still so heavy that my partner had a real problem lifting it, not to mention climbing up a rocky shore with it. How do other people deal with that problem? Food in Elba was mostly disappointing. The prices easily compare to Switzerland but the quality did not. So we mostly spend our lunch breaks in port to get out of sun, sipping cappuccino in one of the countless "bars". In doing so we never had a problem with theft (so much for the clichees), even though we always left our boat unattended and in the end even did so for a few hours. So all in all (and inspite of all my little compaints) we had lots of fun and we were surprised to see so few kayakers around there. Regards, Ferdinand ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ferdinand Soethe o, o__ o_/| o_. Wollkaemmerei 8 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ D-30519 Hannover (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\- ph +49-511-9845437 mobile +49-171-1403591 email f.soethe_at_apc.de ------------------------------------------------------------------- *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: [snip] > > Regards, > Ferdinand > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ferdinand Soethe o, o__ o_/| o_. > Wollkaemmerei 8 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ > D-30519 Hannover (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\- > i think the signature above looks a bit familiar?!?! #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [_| [_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: One kind word can warm three winter months. --Japanese Proverb *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Zur Nachricht vom 23. Sep 99 11:50 > On Tue, 21 Sep 1999, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > [snip] > > > > Regards, > > Ferdinand > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Ferdinand Soethe o, o__ o_/| o_. > > Wollkaemmerei 8 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ > > D-30519 Hannover (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\- > > > > i think the signature above looks a bit familiar?!?! > Hi Mark, it does indeed. I first saw this in the faltboot.de a German-language Web- forum on folding kayaks and liked it a lot. Did you design it? Ferdinand *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > Zur Nachricht vom 23. Sep 99 11:50 > > > Regards, > > > Ferdinand > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Ferdinand Soethe o, o__ o_/| o_. > > > Wollkaemmerei 8 </ [\/ [\_| [\_\ > > > D-30519 Hannover (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\- > > > > > > > i think the signature above looks a bit familiar?!?! > > > > Hi Mark, > > it does indeed. I first saw this in the faltboot.de a German-language Web- > forum on folding kayaks and liked it a lot. Did you design it? > > Ferdinand yes, and have been using it for 8 years now... mark -- #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [_| [_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.diac.com/~zen/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: One kind word can warm three winter months. --Japanese Proverb *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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