Re: [Paddlewise] Weatherhelm

I'll help them carry the boat but when they run forward and try to have me
carry the stern I inform them that the stern is their end to carry (for
better or worse and in sickness and health).
Matt Broze
http://www.marinerkayaks.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Hagen <dan_at_hagen.net>
To: Paddlewise <paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Date: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Weatherhelm


>John Fereira wrote:
>
>> ...<big snip>... I'm not going to adopt an
>> "Im too sexy for a rudder" mentality because a lot of people with far
less
>> experience than Audrey think "real paddlers don't need rudders".
>
>Of course not--I wouldn't either. That would be very narrow minded. I
>have read and heard many complaints about this type of narrow mindedness
>on the part of others, but I have not seen it or experienced it myself
>(to any significant degree). It is very obvious to most advocates of
>rudder-free paddling that there are many "real paddlers", even
>exceptional paddlers, who use rudders. (Presumably there are also many
>"sexy" paddlers who use rudders, but I would rather not venture into
>that discussion.) Of course whenever there are disagreements about
>technique or equipment there is going to be some teasing back and forth,
>but it is all in fun. A problem can arise if some folks begin to take
>the teasing seriously. Misunderstandings can arise, and a statement made
>in jest can be misinterpreted as elitist or condescending. The following
>may be an example of this:
>
>> ...<another big snip>...
>> The reason for my entry into this thread was that I objected to the
>> condescending
>> attitude regarding "not waving to someone with a kayak on their SUV if it
>> had a rudder" and "I wouldn't help carry a kayak with a rudder".  The
attitude
>> smacks of elitism and is extremely condescending.
>
>Do you really believe that Tom (who made the statements you quote) would
>refuse to wave at a paddler with a ruddered boat, or would refuse to
>help them with their boat? I took his statement as poking fun at those
>who believe all of this claptrap about rudderless paddlers being elitist
>snobs who do not consider rudder users to be real paddlers. You have
>done nothing to dissuade me from the opinion (expressed in my earlier
>post) that there are a lot more AARPPs than ARPs. ;-)
>
>Dan Hagen
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