This rudder/no rudder business just goes on and on and I would like to propose something- a "Grok Duel" - that might help everyone concerned. It comes from Edward MacNeal, a regular contributor to ETC: The Journal of the International Society for General Semantics. The name comes from Robert Heinlein's "Stranger in a Strange Land" and means to "to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a part of the process being observed ....etc." MacNeal felt that most arguments and misunderstandings stemmed from the parties not understanding each other's positions. He developed the "Grok Duel" as an aid in understanding. These rules govern Grok Dueling; 1. Each party takes turns trying to state the other's position to the satisfaction of the other party. Parties may only use positive statements supporting an argument. 2. An unsatisfied party must state at least one particular in which the statement fails. 3. The first party to make a satisfactory statement wins. If the second party then replies with a satisfactory statement, the second party also wins. The opposing sides of this discussion can pick someone to represent them and send him or her their arguments supporting the opposing position, They, in turn, will post the arguments on paddlewise (this will cut down on list traffic). No one else will post to the list on the topic. Jackie will have to use one of her subtle chastisements to stop rogue posters. We could use "Pros and Cons of Rudders and Moveable Skegs VS No Rudder or Moveable Skeg on Sea Kayaks" as a topic. Because this will include a lot of people maybe the first post should include a list of those on each side. When over, Jackie could post the lists on the Paddlewise web site explaining how we created it. I have wanted to test this technique of MacNeal's on the Internet for some time as I believe that the Internet actually inhibits understanding because of its "sound bite nature" and a tendency towards wanting to "win" arguments or make "points". For those interested the article describing Grok Dueling appears in ETC: Volume Fifty-Six Number Two, Summer 1999. If this experiment works I will write to Mr.. MacNeal who may even use Paddlewise as an example of improved understanding in a future article. If we agree to use this technique we should set a start date for I may ask MacNeal to monitor the discussion if he has E-Mail or thinks it worthwhile. Cheers, John Winters Redwing Designs Web site address, http://home.ican.net/~735769 *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************Received on Fri Oct 08 1999 - 05:28:51 PDT
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