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From: Arthur Hebert <seacajun_at_gs.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rule 800 Rules!
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 22:26:39 -0500
Bob Violin wrote;
>I placed the batteries in 1.7 gal.Rubbermaid containers.  Holes were
drilled
>in the lid for the leads, and sealed with several layers of silicone inside
>and out.  Following the wiring diagram that came with the pump, a
waterproof
>fuse connector was placed on the positive battery lead.  Beyond the fuse,
>the battery leads were terminated in a waterproof automotive plug (the sort
>used for trailer lights).
Bob,
I installed a Rule 500 in a very similar manner as your very descriptive
installation.  One thing I would like to note that I did differently was at
my connections at the toggle switch and at the Tupperware container I used
liquid electric tape.  The Tupperware container is a 4 liter and has the
number 3 stamped on the bottom.  Two 6V lantern batteries fitted very
snuggly in the container just added a 5/8 inch thick rubber which laid on
top of the batteries (between the post) and just under the lid. This
eliminated any movement of the batteries within the containers.
Just a note bout the adhesion quality of the liquid electric tape; I used
this system for about a 2 years with a Mad River Tempest Canoe. The system
has not been used ( kinda been laying around in my work shop)  for bout 7
years and the liquid tape is still adhered to the surfaces it was applied
to.
I have used the Attwood self contained unit most recently, keep saying I'm
gonna rig de Rule 500 in de kayak but I just ain't got a "round tuit".  If I
were to use any other type of sealant I think I would experiment with the 3m
Marine Adhesive Sealant 5200.
Thanks for your very informative post,
Arthur

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From: Bob Volin <bobvolin_at_bestweb.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rule 800 Rules!
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 23:50:20 -0400
Arthur wrote:

>I installed a Rule 500 in a very similar manner <snip>
>One thing I would like to note that I did differently was at
>my connections at the toggle switch and at the Tupperware container I used
>liquid electric tape.
....Never heard of that!  Thanks for the tip.

>Two 6V lantern batteries fitted very
>snuggly in the container just added a 5/8 inch thick rubber which laid on
>top of the batteries (between the post) and just under the lid. This
>eliminated any movement of the batteries within the containers.

......Yes.  In my post, I omitted the fact that I cut three small wedges of
minicell for each battery container to keep the batteries from moving
around.

>If I  were to use any other type of sealant I think I would experiment with
the 3m
>Marine Adhesive Sealant 5200.
.....I used that on the joint between the check valve and a thin sleeve on
the through-hull fitting.  Seems to hold well, so far.

Happy tinkering!
    Bob

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From: Nick Gill <nicholas.gill_at_adfa.edu.au>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rule 800 Rules!
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:43:33 +1000
did anyone dig up that reliability data on electric pumps in the end?
nick
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From: Bob Volin <bobvolin_at_bestweb.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Rule 800 Rules!
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:22:30 -0400
From: Nick Gill <nicholas.gill_at_adfa.edu.au>

>did anyone dig up that reliability data on electric pumps in the end?


This is copied from a post by Wes Boyd on Feb 4, 1999:

I may be stepping on Philip Wylie's toes with this, but this is the content
of
an e-mail to him from Laurie Ford that was posted on the Baidarka  list last
year. (I saved it since it seemed like one of those key things you want to
remember.)

"As for electric pumps - in the last 20 years there is only one type that I
would recommend, and I have tried out several others. The RULE 500 (usedto
be 400) is the only one that never gives any trouble. Others have had he
impeller disintegrate, or the housing develop leaks...."


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