Ok, Ralph, I acknowledge that you have a cool boat carrying vehicle. I also would like to recognize that over the last couple years on this list I have heard some crazy stories of boat carrying ability. Care to make it interesting? I would like to see images of these kayak/canoe hauling monstrosities that the many previous posts have been describing. Maybe an informal competition of how many boats can your car reasonably carry. I suppose there ought to be rules governing the most overburdened vehicle. Kind of like the "rules" that governed the people who stuffed themselves into phone booths and VW bugs. We could post pictures on a separate site with every Paddlewiser getting one vote to throw at their boat of choice. My suggestions include: No bagged boats. - All must be in full view of impartial judges. Everyone knows that Ralph would thoroughly squish us with a dozen folders stored under th e seats of some van. We have to play fair. If you are going to carry a boat, you must have a passenger for it stuffed in the cars' cockpit, I mean passenger area, or whatever. This will limit most pickup owners to something like 3,4 or 8 with a crewcab. Just so we aren't seeing flatbed pickups hauling 40 little whitewater boats. The picture on the back of the NRS catalog comes to mind. Maybe some measurement like a boat to car weight ratio? (full tank) All persons limbs must be inside the car. My father has an electrical company and often uses a huge school bus to haul his electricians from site to site, it seats 60 and has a big full length rack on top. Getting the local kayak club together would be a cinch. - But in fairness, I automatically exclude myself from using it. (That would be sooo cool!) Should we mandate bow-stern lines? (I hate to bring that up again.) This could be really fun. The owner could have bragging rights placed right square in the the signature following their posts. Something like "Laydeeeesss and Gentlemen, Theeee undisputed heavyweight boat hauling champeeen of the world!!!! What do you think Paddlewisers? Care to show your portage vehicle? Phil Huck thekayaker_at_yahoo.com huck_at_mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, huck wrote: > > Ok, Ralph, I acknowledge that you have a cool boat carrying vehicle. I also > would like to recognize that over the last couple years on this list I have > heard some crazy stories of boat carrying ability. > > Care to make it interesting? > > I would like to see images of these kayak/canoe hauling monstrosities > that the many previous posts have been describing. Maybe an informal > competition of how many boats can your car reasonably carry. I suppose there > ought to be rules governing the most overburdened vehicle. Kind of like the > "rules" that governed the people who stuffed themselves into phone booths and > VW bugs. We could post pictures on a separate site with every Paddlewiser > getting one vote to throw at their boat of choice. > > My suggestions include: > > > No bagged boats. - All must be in full view of impartial judges. > Everyone knows that Ralph would thoroughly squish us with a dozen folders > stored under th e seats of some van. We have to play fair. > > If you are going to carry a boat, you must have a passenger for it > stuffed in the cars' cockpit, I mean passenger area, or whatever. This will > limit most pickup owners to something like 3,4 or 8 with a crewcab. Just so we > aren't seeing flatbed pickups hauling 40 little whitewater boats. The picture > on the back of the NRS catalog comes to mind. what if i take the family on a trip, and i take 2 boats for myself? i ask because that's why we had so many boats on my car in a previous post!! i wish i had a picture of it... one of the boats was a loaner... we had 3 people, boat seating for 6!! > Maybe some measurement like a boat to car weight ratio? (full tank) cool!! > All persons limbs must be inside the car. > > My father has an electrical company and often uses a huge school bus to > haul his electricians from site to site, it seats 60 and has a big full length > rack on top. Getting the local kayak club together would be a cinch. - But in > fairness, I automatically exclude myself from using it. (That would be sooo > cool!) > > Should we mandate bow-stern lines? (I hate to bring that up again.) > > This could be really fun. The owner could have bragging rights placed > right square in the the signature following their posts. > Something like "Laydeeeesss and Gentlemen, Theeee undisputed > heavyweight boat hauling champeeen of the world!!!! > > What do you think Paddlewisers? Care to show your portage vehicle? this was mellow, 17' aluminum canoe, 15' whitewater canoe, and 15' kayak: http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark/photo/alegrp1b.jpg i'll have to borrow another boat to "recreate" the larger load ;-) mark -- #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [_| [_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.jacknjillz.com/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner. - English Proverb *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Mark Zen wrote: > > > What do you think Paddlewisers? Care to show your portage vehicle? > > this was mellow, 17' aluminum canoe, 15' whitewater canoe, and 15' kayak: > > http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark/photo/alegrp1b.jpg > > i'll have to borrow another boat to "recreate" the larger load ;-) Three? We're supposed to be impressed by three? :) And aren't you missing a paddler? Looks like 2 tandems up there. I've never really carried enough to impress myself. Carried 5-6 WW kayaks stacked edgewise, or 2 canoes and two kayaks. Done that several times. I don't think I have photo dox, anyhow. Steve *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, huck wrote: My personal record for shuttles was 20 canoes and 40 bodies, plus a weekend worth of camping gear for everyone, split between 2 10 wheel dump trucks. Ah, the joys of the local lumberjack's annual wood river trip in Northwest Rhode Island... Yes there really are lumberjacks in rhode island. Sorry no pictures. It was definitely a memorable trip, joining them once was enough for me thanks. kirk *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 10/26/1999 3:47:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, canoeist_at_netbox.com writes: << this was mellow, 17' aluminum canoe, 15' whitewater canoe, and 15' kayak: >> Still, it was pretty cool, Mark. Looks like it was on an SUV. Sandy Kramer *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 10/26/1999 3:47:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > canoeist_at_netbox.com writes: > > << this was mellow, 17' aluminum canoe, 15' whitewater canoe, and 15' kayak: > >> > Still, it was pretty cool, Mark. Looks like it was on an SUV. > > Sandy Kramer and steve said something about missing a person... the WW canoe had three seats, so it could be paddled tandem or solo. at 6' 200#+ it was ok as a solo [wish i still had it] and a real blast as a tandem... it was an old [76] ford truck. "extra cab" could have carried a couple more folks!! mark -- #------canoeist[at]netbox[dot]com----http://www.diac.com/~zen/mark ---- # mark zen o, o__ o_/| o_. po box 474 </ [\/ [_| [_\ ft. lupton, co 80621-0474 (`-/-------/----') (`----|-------\-') #~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~~~~_at_~~~~~ http://www.jacknjillz.com/paddler [index to club websites i administer] Rocky Mtn Sea Kayak Club, Colorado River Flows, Poudre Paddlers The Colorado Paddlers' Resource, Rocky Mtn Canoe Club Trip Page -- Fortune: A smooth sea never made a skillful mariner. - English Proverb *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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