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From: <Sandykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mates OR Children
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:39:32 EST
In a message dated 11/04/1999 5:53:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
kcoplan_at_genesis.law.pace.edu writes:

<< Its hard to find overnight babysitting, and besides, since we both work we 
feel 
 too guilty to abandon our kids to strangers on weekends too.  Last 
 February, Robin and I finally got another winter camping overnight 
 in by leaving the kids with their aunt in Albany.  >>

Now try to imagine being a single parent who loves the outdoors.  I was so 
broke that my kids didn't even know what the inside of a hotel (or motel) 
looked like!  But they learned to camp.  Nothing strenuous or particularly 
adventurous, but lots of "quality time" (to use a barf word!).  I had a "poor 
man's" van (wood panneling and a wooden platform with a mattress) but we had 
so much fun.

The payback comes later when:  the first thing my daughter did after high 
school graduation was to go camping with a girlfriend.  And when my son (in 
high school) had to write about his funniest experiences they were all about 
incidents that happened while camping (when his friend peed into the wind 
while they were fishing, when his step-father sat  on my son's birthday cake, 
when the tents got flooded with six inches of water....).

Just reminiscing.....

Sandy Kramer the cheap date who would rather sit in front of a tent mit vin 
und friends than check into a resort!

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From: James Lofton <n5yyx_at_etsc.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Mates OR Children
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:26:46 -0800
Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 11/04/1999 5:53:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> kcoplan_at_genesis.law.pace.edu writes:
> 
> << Its hard to find overnight babysitting, and besides, since we both work we
> feel
>  too guilty to abandon our kids to strangers on weekends too.  Last
>  February, Robin and I finally got another winter camping overnight
>  in by leaving the kids with their aunt in Albany.  >>
> 
> Now try to imagine being a single parent who loves the outdoors.  I was so
> broke that my kids didn't even know what the inside of a hotel (or motel)
> looked like! 


Sandy, this sure brought back memories of my first son. The only life he 
knew at first was a 12X20' log cabin, just across the Copper river from 
the Wrangles. It had no running water, electricty, and of course no 
inside toilet. I think he was 3+ years old when he was first "intrduced" 
to a real flushing toilet in town. We practicly had to lock him out of 
the bathroom to keep him from flushing it over and over again. :-)
Sometimes we worry about not being able to provide "things" for our 
children, but I think the greatest gift we can give, is to share our love 
of the outdoors.
Those were great times.

James

> But they learned to camp.  Nothing strenuous or particularly
> adventurous, but lots of "quality time" (to use a barf word!).  I had a "poor
> man's" van (wood panneling and a wooden platform with a mattress) but we had
> so much fun.
> 
> The payback comes later when:  the first thing my daughter did after high
> school graduation was to go camping with a girlfriend.  And when my son (in
> high school) had to write about his funniest experiences they were all about
> incidents that happened while camping (when his friend peed into the wind
> while they were fishing, when his step-father sat  on my son's birthday cake,
> when the tents got flooded with six inches of water....).
> 
> Just reminiscing.....
> 
> Sandy Kramer the cheap date who would rather sit in front of a tent mit vin
> und friends than check into a resort!
> 
>


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From: Robert Woodard <woodardr_at_tidalwave.net>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Mates OR Children
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:43:35 -0500
>  And when my son (in
> high school) had to write about his funniest experiences they
> were all about incidents that happened while camping (when
> his friend peed into the wind  while they were fishing,
> when his step-father sat  on my son's birthday cake,
> when the tents got flooded with six inches of water....).

That must have been some wind! (and a big bladder!)

8^)

Woody


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