In a message dated 11/30/1999 2:57:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, CHUCK_at_multitech.com writes: << Here are a few advantages of winter wilderness camping: >> GREAT, Chuck, bet you get other advantages from the list. Of course you neglected to mention the bit about freezing your tushie off! I was horrified about the thought of sleeping under a tarp - not even tent walls???? EEEEK. So, all you winter nude sleepers. What happens when you need to tinkle? Sandy Kramer who loves living in the tropics *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: > So, all you winter nude sleepers. What happens when you need to tinkle? > > Sandy Kramer who loves living in the tropics Pee in the snow, but not on the side of the tent reserved for snow acquisition (for water). Ditto for number 2, unless in an area where human waste is a problem. (Then, it's pack it out -- frozen, dudes.) Others have extolled the virtues of tarping sans tent in the winter. Not a chance for this boy **in a maritime climate**. Way too many times have I listened to it **rain** on my tent while snow-camping, even at 6000 ft! Chuck's Minnesota climate is colder than a witch's whatnot, but at least it's dry! Best winter shelter (IMHO) is an igloo -- built a half dozen and slept in three or four. Once you get your act together, it's a 45 minute proposition, and the **quiet** is incredible. Plus, all that warm moist stuff from clothes, bod, etc., condenses on the inner walls and leaves the bag relatively dry. Re: accumulation of water in sleeping bags: limits trips to about 4 days using a down bag in the Cascades/Olympics, unless you have some way to transport that moisture outside the tent. In the late '60's, I used to do a lot of winter ski-touring/mountaineering. Coldest, most miserable camping there is. With a synthetic fill bag, bet letting it freeze and then shaking vigorously would help a lot. Campfires on deep snow are really cool. -- Dave Kruger Astoria, OR *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: --snip-- > So, all you winter nude sleepers. What happens when you need to tinkle? Funny you should ask. Once I tried to make a quick relief trip outside in a snowstorm. Got lost. Got VVEERRRRYY CCCCOOOOLLLLDDDD. Since then my sleeping partner is a Nalgene bottle. Cheers, Richard (Who to this day has a small white spot to remind him of frostbite) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
At 12:08 AM 12/1/99 -0500, Richard Culpeper wrote: >Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: >--snip-- > >> So, all you winter nude sleepers. What happens when you need to tinkle? > >Funny you should ask. Once I tried to make a quick relief trip outside in a >snowstorm. Got lost. Got VVEERRRRYY CCCCOOOOLLLLDDDD. Since then my sleeping >partner is a Nalgene bottle. > >Cheers, >Richard >(Who to this day has a small white spot to remind him of frostbite) I just got to ask , do we want to know where this white spot is located or just take your word on it??? :) Dana *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 12/1/99 6:56:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, << Funny you should ask. Once I tried to make a quick relief trip outside in a >snowstorm. Got lost. Got VVEERRRRYY CCCCOOOOLLLLDDDD. Since then my sleeping >partner is a Nalgene bottle. >> I guess you just have to make sure you dont take a sip out of the warm one when you wake up sleepy eyed and thirsty huh? *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Sandykayak_at_aol.com wrote: > > So, all you winter nude sleepers. What happens when you need to tinkle? > I'm not one of those winter nudists, so I wear my dry suit liner as PJs. It's 100 weight Polartec - toasty warm and it dries quickly if damp. I also wear my boot liners in the sleeping bag! Those are Sorel types, with a high tech liner. That way, when I get up, I can just pull on the overboot and wander about in my PJs. Warm enough for a quick trip outside. Ya know, you southerners don't understand how wonderful the winter can be. This past weekend, I was hiking in the Gatineau hills near Ottawa and afterwards went to a friend's fabulous house. On a two-acre, wooded lot, surrounded by trees. We spent almost an hour in his outdoor hot tub, at ten pm, with the air temperature just above freezing. After drying off, and wrapping myself in my towel (to shed my soaked bathing suit) I could wander around outside comfortably. And there's something about paddling through, around and over ice that adds something to kayaking. Last year's Winter Solstice paddle ended with the participants covered in a thin layer of clear ice. Kayaks, paddles, clothing, PFDs - the works. A spray would freeze on contact. You should have seen the looks on the faces of folks as we exited our kayaks on a public beach and shook thin sheets of ice off ourselves. This year's paddle is in a couple of weeks! Mike *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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