Henry, Oil canning is simply a dent. The best way to store a plastic kayak is to hang it sideways from two straps, both about a third of the way from each end. You also want to store it out of direct sunlight and in an area that isn't too hot. After each use, I rotate the side it rests on. As for car topping, use properly adjusted saddles that support the kayak horizontally in the area between the side and bottom. You don't want any weight on the area around the keelson. Do not overtighten the straps. Taking the slack out is tight enough for me. The same goes for the bow tie down. It really is funny how much abuse a plastic sea kayak can take when it is paddled and easily it can be damaged when stored or car topped. Duane Strosaker Southern California *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Duane, I think you may be mistaken. In any usage I have heard, "oil canning" means flex. Old style oil cans dispensed oil by flexing the bottom of the can. Boat hulls that work in and out in waves are said to oil can. It is most often considered a negative contribution to performance. What you are calling a dent is in fact a dent. Mark Strosaker_at_aol.com wrote: > > Henry, > > Oil canning is simply a dent. > > The best way to store a plastic kayak is to hang it sideways from two straps, > both about a third of the way from each end. You also want to store it out > of direct sunlight and in an area that isn't too hot. After each use, I > rotate the side it rests on. > As for car topping, use properly adjusted saddles that support the kayak > horizontally in the area between the side and bottom. You don't want any > weight on the area around the keelson. Do not overtighten the straps. > Taking the slack out is tight enough for me. The same goes for the bow tie > down. > > It really is funny how much abuse a plastic sea kayak can take when it is > paddled and easily it can be damaged when stored or car topped. > > Duane Strosaker > Southern California *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 12/3/99 9:47:55 PM, batwing_at_kerrlake.com writes: << I think you may be mistaken. In any usage I have heard, "oil canning" means flex. Old style oil cans dispensed oil by flexing the bottom of the can. Boat hulls that work in and out in waves are said to oil can. It is most often considered a negative contribution to performance. What you are calling a dent is in fact a dent. >> What I've heard called "oil canning" is when the boat deforms in a semi/permanant way from the bottom. It will have the dents Duane spoke of where the boat is least supported from either sitting on the bars of a rack on a car or in a poorly supported position when stored in a warm place. I have never hear oil canning used as "flex" in a moving boat. That certainly doesn't mean I'm right but this is the usage I've run into. Maybe we need a user's dictionary of jargon. Joan *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
On Sat, 4 Dec 1999 JSpinner_at_aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 12/3/99 9:47:55 PM, batwing_at_kerrlake.com writes: > > << I think you may be mistaken. In any usage I have heard, "oil canning" > means flex. Old style oil cans dispensed oil by flexing the bottom of > the can. Boat hulls that work in and out in waves are said to oil can. > It is most often considered a negative contribution to performance. > What you are calling a dent is in fact a dent. >> > > What I've heard called "oil canning" is when the boat deforms in a > semi/permanant way from the bottom. <snip> > I > have never hear oil canning used as "flex" in a moving boat. That certainly > doesn't mean I'm right but this is the usage I've run into. Joan, you're obviously not talking to the right people. Mark's description above is right on the mark. Perhaps you're too young to have seen one of those old-fashioned oil cans. ;) Oil-canning is a dynamic event, dents (aka, wow) are static, or at least long term. Some canoes, like the Mohawk Solo 13, oilcan dramatically underway. You can load and unload your knees and get a real rhythm going, just about squirting water out the sides. The keel line (the bottom is actually flat) moves vertically about 2". Most kayaks, being supported by the deck, don't oilcan anywhere near that much, even the plastic ones. But strap a plastic boat down tight on the racks and leave it there a few days in the hot sun, and you'll have major dents. Don't ask me why I know this. Steve Cramer Test Scoring & Reporting Services Sometimes you never can University of Georgia always tell what you Athens, GA 30602-5593 least expect the most. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Oil canning is the bending of the bottom of the boat (like an oil can that you push on the bottom to make the oil go out) while underway. Happens a lot with tandem canoes. It's annoying but I don't think it hurts performance all that much. If you can't put it inside, get a cheap tarp to keep the sun off of it. Plastic boats get brittle if left in the sun for years. 303 is the best stuff since sliced bread. Spray it on and rub it around with your hands. Let it sit awhile then get the excess off with a rag. I use it on everything that gets left outside including the bar-b-que and my wife. Leaving a plastic boat tied down real tight in the sun will put a dent in it. Some folks recommend heat guns to take them out. I had good luck just leaving them in the sun for a day. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
In a message dated 12/4/99 7:02:47 PM Central Standard Time, vaughan_at_jps.net writes: > I use it on everything that gets > left outside including > the bar-b-que and my wife. So, Bob, I'm interested in how the wife gets left outside? And, how often do you have to re-coat a wife? I do my boats twice a year or so, would that be often enough for a wife? I haven't left my girlfriend outside yet, but I suppose it could happen. Rob *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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