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From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
subject: [Paddlewise] Krill running light
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 15:08:26 -0800
I just got off the phone with Kris, the inventor (a very
personable fellow). He said he was considering a half green,
half white version (not sure if he meant horizontal or
vertical split) expressly for folk like us. Seems to me
being side-by-each like that might defeat the porpoise, but
I told him I'd run it up the flagpole and kick it down the
field with a subset of the paddling community. Any comments?
Suggestions?

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From: BaysideBob <vaughan_at_jps.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Krill running light
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:49:04 -0800
Just got my green Krill light and love it.  Surprised that no one had
mentioned it doesn't effect night-vision.
That's a big plus to me.  Tried using flashlights and those miner's lamp
type things and found they only
wreck my vision at night and bounce the beam off the paddle and blind me.

For boating one would expect to see red on the port and green on the
starboard.  That way other craft
can tell which direction you're  headed and aim behind you.  White lights
are usually used in sets so
other folks can tell if your getting closer or further away by the perceived
distance between the lights.
White lights are also used at anchor.

I am unable to find ANY "Coast Guard Regulation" on lighting as it pertains
to human powered craft.
Sailboats under 16' are only required to have a white light.  Larger
sailboats and power boats red on
port, green on starboard. As the boats get bigger (more dangerous)
regulations increase.

For paddling (IMHO) the ideal would be a red light for the left arm and a
green light for the right arm with velcro
elastic straps to secure them above the elbows. I have a Sony radio that
attaches that way and it works
fine.   That way they'd attract attention by their movement. That's why
cyclists often hook lights to their ankles.

I frequently paddle in the dark and didn't use no stinkin' lights until now
that I got my Krill.  The big ships
will run you down even if they do see you because they can't turn out of the
channel and can't stop in
time.   If I'm out with other paddlers I would like to be able to keep track
of them and know which
direction they are going.

I think there would also be a big market for folks who go fishing before
dawn or at night in small boats
that don't have 12 volt systems. Right now they use these stupid flashlight
things where the batteries
go dead in a few hours.  Used to go catfishing all night and the dumb
red-green flash-light thing was
always dead before dawn.

Bob


----- Original Message -----
From: E. Sullivan <sullivaned_at_pop.mts.kpnw.org>
To: p w <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:08 PM
Subject: [Paddlewise] Krill running light


> I just got off the phone with Kris, the inventor (a very
> personable fellow). He said he was considering a half green,
> half white version (not sure if he meant horizontal or
> vertical split) expressly for folk like us. Seems to me
> being side-by-each like that might defeat the porpoise, but
> I told him I'd run it up the flagpole and kick it down the
> field with a subset of the paddling community. Any comments?
> Suggestions?
>



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From: Kirk Olsen <kolsen_at_imagelan.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Krill running light
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:53:24 -0500 (EST)
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000, BaysideBob wrote:

> I am unable to find ANY "Coast Guard Regulation" on lighting as it pertains
> to human powered craft.
> Sailboats under 16' are only required to have a white light.  Larger
> sailboats and power boats red on
> port, green on starboard. As the boats get bigger (more dangerous)
> regulations increase.

The captain of the 6 person outrigger I paddle with (the outrigger is about 
45' long) talked to the harbormaster about what to use.  He was told a 
white light on the stern would be sufficient.   The outrigger is used in 
the harbor between danvers, marblehead, manchester and salem massachusetts.

kirk
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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Krill running light
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:07:48 -0600
>>
I just got off the phone with Kris, the inventor (a very
personable fellow). He said he was considering a half green,
half white version (not sure if he meant horizontal or
vertical split) expressly for folk like us. Seems to me
being side-by-each like that might defeat the porpoise, but
I told him I'd run it up the flagpole and kick it down the
field with a subset of the paddling community. Any comments?
Suggestions?
>>

I don't see the point. Even if you could maintain a proper orientation of
the Krill lamp (I wear mine on my hat), that color combination is not USCG
approved for port/starboard lighting, and looking along the split, I think
that from more than a very short distance the two colors would merge,
anyway. 

BTW, I forgot to mention in previous posts theat I carry -- and have used --
a regulation white headlamp when paddling at night. The light sticks -- and
now the Krill lamp -- are intended more for keeping track of each other in a
group than for use as navigation lights. 

Chuck Holst
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From: Shawn W. Baker <baker_at_montana.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Krill running light
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:42:58 -0700
E. Sullivan wrote:
<snip> He said he was considering a half green,
>half white version (not sure if he meant horizontal or
>vertical split) expressly for folk like us. Seems to me
>being side-by-each like that might defeat the porpoise </snip>

Seems to me that would meet the spirit of the law as well as the letter
of the law.  What color would it 'appear' at long distances?  

Do porpoises even see color?  Would they claim a victory on another
front?

Shawn
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