In a message dated 1/15/00 12:02:19 PM, MCLAURY_at_aol.com writes: << There is a place for us all in the paddling world, no matter where we are on the spectrum, from quiet enjoyment of nature to Tsunami kayakers, and everyone in between, and we can all learn from each other and enjoy each other's paddling experiences. >> Hopefully this will be my last entry into the Doug Lloyd Defense Thread. I am saddened to hear that you were raked over the "back channel" coals by someone trying to protect the newbies. I (we) don't need that kind of protection. We need knowledge, not to have our ignorance fertilized. I take heart in the postings from newbies that find themselves, as I do, experiencing and learning vicariously through some of your hairier postings. For me your escapades help solidify my own self-defined limits by reinforcing that danger lies beyond. I don't want to experience the ragged edge, I believe that I might not survive it. To change or restrict your language would gut the content of it. Please Uncle Doug, tell us another scary bedtime story. We'll grow up believing in monsters that live in tide races and storm winds (and vacuum-bagged boats), and we will stay away from them, and teach our children to stay away from them. And when our children ask why some battering rams are shaped like kayaks, well . . we'll just smile and stare off into space. Jed *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
"I am saddened to hear that you were raked over the "back channel" coals by someone trying to protect the newbies." It is after all, only words. We all possess cerebral cortex, frontal lobes, etc. all standard equipment that came on our respective model years. Information will never hurt. We can read a post of someone's hairboat experience and have one of two reactions to it: "Jeeze-Louise! I'd never be caught dead doing that!!!" (deliberately surfing whirlpools which necessitated seatbealts (!) in kayaks elicited a similar response in my own heart) or conversely ... "Party ON! Go for it man!" What we assent to reading a post at our desks before a monitor is not necessarily what we would attempt while deciding whether or not to go plunging through 6 foot haystacks of white water marching to the horizon... My current acquired philosophy on newbies and questionable surf conditions is: if anyone that suffers from a lack of humility, the Atlantic is only too willing to help them rediscover it. (Which is why we wear pfds.....and sometimes even helmets ....and sometimes just take a nap on the couch.) *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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