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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Y2K also known as MM to us Latins
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 01:25:54 -0800
If you have not fixed your BIOS or RTC (Real Time Clock) or anything
related to the Y2k or MM (in Roman years) problem in your operating
system such as Windows or DOS, your email will wind up stacking up in
strange places in other people's email inboxes.

I opened up my email just now (after watching a spectacular fireworks
display in Central Park just a block from my home that seemed right over
head).  I noticed that I was supposed to have 7 messages. but could only
see 4 at the bottom of my email list (I do tend to leave items sitting
in my inbox after I have read them).  I thought perhaps some of the
messages were from west of me, i.e. West Coast or Hawaii time.  But when
I scrolled up I could not find any.  Finally I scrolled up to the top of
my email inbox and found that two (from the same person) were from 1983
(!) and another was from 1980!  Geez, I didn't know anyone had email
back then!!!! :-)

I know that one of the suggested fixes for Y2K was to just re-set the
computer clock at 1980.  All well and good if you live in isolation in
just the internal world of your computer.  BUT if you have to
communicate with the outside world via email etc. you will wind up in
some strange places in other people's inboxes.  And who knows what other
dysfunctional ramifications are/will result.

My email I know is showing the right date (I just exchanged email with
my wife to her computer).

(The only thing a bit askew in my machine is that in File Manager (I am
a Win 3.1 holdout); it is showing a file I created just now as dated
1/01/:1 but it does queue up okay.  Maybe my fix wasn't enough to get
\00 but I did find a fix yesterday to do something to fix File Manager
and I will experiment with it later.  For now, \:1 is as good as \00 for
purposes of internally sorting files.)

Happy New Millenium to all. The old wish is "that you live in
interesting times"...I think we all are.

For you own communication integrity, do fix your computer date.

happy paddling in MM,

ralph


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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Y2K also known as MM to us Latins
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 09:14:12 -0500
At 01:25 AM 1/1/00 -0800, ralph diaz wrote:
Finally I scrolled up to the top of
>my email inbox and found that two (from the same person) were from 1983
>(!) and another was from 1980!  Geez, I didn't know anyone had email
>back then!!!! :-)

I got my first email address in 1984 ( hpda!hpdsla!johnf  ).  About that
time I also starting reading Usenet and became the usenet administrator.
All newsgroups names began with net. and it actually quite easy to read
every article in every newsgroup posted on a given day.




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From: Doug Lloyd <dlloyd_at_bc.sympatico.ca>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Y2K also known as MM to us Latins
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 09:50:21 -0800
At 01:25 AM 1/1/00 -0800, Ralph wrote: 
>If you have not fixed your BIOS or RTC (Real Time Clock) or anything 
>related to the Y2k or MM (in Roman years) problem in your operating 
>system such as Windows or DOS, your email will wind up stacking up in 
>strange places in other people's email inboxes. 
<snip> 

It's blowing 35 knots today and I partied till 5:00 am this morning - up
at 9:00 am. My computer is actually working and civilization did not 
fall apart! Not sure if my body feels together, however, for my annual 
New Year's paddle. Anyway... 

This may or may not help people's weird looking new millenium dates as 
shown by your reginal settings: 

Here is the URL for the Win95 update. The  "Download" for the file is at
the bottom, down load it to a dir EG:  C:\JUNK and then log out and 
execute it.  Pat  
http://www.microsoft.com/Windows95/downloads/contents/WURecommended/S_WUFeatured/win95y2k/Default.asp



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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Y2K also known as MM to us Latins
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 21:02:45
At 01:25 AM 1/1/00 -0800, ralph diaz wrote:

>(The only thing a bit askew in my machine is that in File Manager (I am
>a Win 3.1 holdout); it is showing a file I created just now as dated
>1/01/:1 but it does queue up okay.  Maybe my fix wasn't enough to get
>\00 but I did find a fix yesterday to do something to fix File Manager
>and I will experiment with it later.  For now, \:1 is as good as \00 for
>purposes of internally sorting files.)


We've had one of our 3.1 machines at work set a year ahead for over a year,
and the file manager bug is the only thing that's turned up. However, it's
easy to fix. I don't have the url, but get on the microsoft page and search
out a file named "wfwfilup.exe". Download it, follow the instructions, and
that'll clear up the problem.

-- Wes


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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Y2K also known as MM to us Latins
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:42:29 -0800
Wes Boyd wrote:
> 
> At 01:25 AM 1/1/00 -0800, ralph diaz wrote:
> 
> >(The only thing a bit askew in my machine is that in File Manager (I am
> >a Win 3.1 holdout); it is showing a file I created just now as dated
> >1/01/:1 but it does queue up okay.  Maybe my fix wasn't enough to get
> >\00 but I did find a fix yesterday to do something to fix File Manager
> >and I will experiment with it later.  For now, \:1 is as good as \00 for
> >purposes of internally sorting files.)
> 
> We've had one of our 3.1 machines at work set a year ahead for over a year,
> and the file manager bug is the only thing that's turned up. However, it's
> easy to fix. I don't have the url, but get on the microsoft page and search
> out a file named "wfwfilup.exe". Download it, follow the instructions, and
> that'll clear up the problem.

Thanks,

I had downloaded these files a few weeks ago in two versions (for my
wife's 3.1 Windows for Workgroups, which is the file you refer to, and
my plain ole 3.1).  When I saw the glitch in File Manager after midnite
on 1/1/:0 I used those downloaded files on both machines and it cleared
File Manager's reporting to read 1/1/00.

ralph
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From: Chuck Holst <CHUCK_at_multitech.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Y2K also known as MM to us Latins
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2000 09:57:06 -0600
>>
Finally I scrolled up to the top of my email inbox and found that two 
(from the same person) were from 1983 (!) and another was from 1980!  
Geez, I didn't know anyone had email back then!!!! :-)
>>

I received an e-mail this weekend dated 1-2-100! I don't know why it wasn't
in Latin.

Chuck Holst

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