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From: <Strosaker_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Swamped rear compartment-Plastic
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:14:58 EST
In a message dated 1/30/00 10:21:38 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com writes:

<<  Plastic kayaks have
 leak-susceptible bulkheads.  No matter what the manufacturers say, they
 can leak (perhaps that is too blanket a statement).  You should always
 use airbags in any plastic kayak regardless of the presence of
 bulkheads.  >>

Sea Kayakers,

The bulkheads in the plastic VCP Skerray I recently sold didn't leak, and 
they where the welded in plastic type.  The bulkheads in my plastic Necky 
Looksha IV don't leak either.  Like a lot of other plastic kayaks, the 
bulkheads in the Looksha are 3" closed cell foam with sealant around the 
edges.  By the way, my fiberglass Necky Arluk II and fiberglass Northwest 
Seascape have the exact same type of bulkheads, and these fiberglass hulls 
flex as much as the plastic Looksha.  The Seascape bulkheads are starting to 
leak, because the sealant is old.  I will have to reseal it soon.  Whether 
your kayak is plastic or fiberglass, you may occasionally have to perform 
maintenance on the bulkheads in them.

The only reason plastic kayaks may have leaking bulkheads more often is 
because of the abuse these kayaks take.  Many of them are very old and have 
been stacked, sat on, stored improperly, and left out side to weather and 
bake in the sun, while fiberglass kayaks are treated like precious china.  
All kinds of kayaks have leaking problems.  There were recent posts on this 
list about an all mighty fiberglass Romany having a leaking skeg box, and 
there have been some posts about leaking seams in a variety fiberglass kayaks.

On the crossings I made in my plastic kayak last year, I didn't use air bags 
for back up flotation.  I did have a couple water proof bags I used to make 
sure my sleeping bag and clothes stayed dry from typical hatch leakage, but 
they weren't for and wouldn't have provided much extra flotation.  I won't be 
using air bags on the crossings I have planned in my plastic kayak this year 
either.  However, back up flotation probably isn't a bad idea in any sea 
kayak, whether it be plastic or fiberglass.

Plastic kayaks, and the bulkheads in them, don't deserve the bad rap they 
keep getting.

Duane Strosaker
Defender of Plastic Kayaks!
 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/pirateseakayaker/index.html">Pirate Sea 
Kayaker</A> 

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Swamped rear compartment-Plastic
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:09:40 -0800
Apologies to Duane for my beins so strident regarding the bulkheads on
plastic boats.  But I have seen too many failures to just sit on my
hands and say "that's nice."

Some of the bulkheads on those boats do hold up if the boat is babied,
maybe.  But as Duane indicates some are abused.  And it is a selling
point of plastic boats that they can be abused and not suffer.  So,
dragging them across logs and bumpy rocky beaches, etc. will quickly get
the bulkhead's sealant to separate from the walls of the kayak and cause
leaks.

As for the VCP Skerray, it was touted as having leakproof bulkheads
because of the welding.  A local outfitter bought one to see how it
would work in his fleet.  I happened to spend a weekend on two of their
day tours.  On the end of the second day, when we went to empty water
out of the cockpit of the touring fleet, we kept getting water at the
bottom.  Discounting the possibility of miraculous water apparitions, we
opened up a hatch and found the rear compartment full of water that was
feeding into the cockpit though a slightly separated bulkhead.

I stand by my statement that airbags to provide for extra flotation are
a must on any plastic boat, and, of course, folding kayaks as well.  

ralph diaz
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