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From: <superiorvisions_at_att.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:26:24 +0000
Hello Paddlewisers,

I was wondering if the bee survived after encountering 
Ralph. Or did one your steps following the sting include 
playing sqaush the bee?


Good Paddling,

Don Dimond	
Owner of Superior Visions Sea Kayaking School
Board Member of Twin Cities Sea Kayaking Association
Director/Minnesota Alliance of Sea Kayaking Educators
	
			
			
			
			
			
			
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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:03:32 -0800
superiorvisions_at_att.net wrote:
> 
> Hello Paddlewisers,
> 
> I was wondering if the bee survived after encountering
> Ralph. Or did one your steps following the sting include
> playing sqaush the bee?
> 
> Good Paddling,
> 
> Don Dimond
> Owner of Superior Visions Sea Kayaking School

Someone through back channels informed me that the bee mostly likely
died as its stinger would have been ripped out of its stomach.  The
suggestion was that the humane thing to have done was to squash the poor
thing, which I didn't.

I also heard back channel from someone else on this listserve that she
had the identical accident with her sandals, i.e. a bee flow in under
her uplifted toes in that part of the stride and stung her on her
next-to-big-toe (my bee got my big toe).  

ralph
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From: Colin Calder <c.j.calder_at_abdn.ac.uk>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:45:03 -0000
I've only been stung on once occasion. Slightly off topic I guess, but I was rock
climbing, on a semi hanging belay top of the second pitch, bringing up my second
when this wasp lands on my leg. The belay was sufficiently restrictive I couldn't
reach down ... wasp wanders right into the cuff of my boot .... arggggggghhhh.
unfortunately wasps don't lose their sting first time ... arggggggghh again ...
before the little critter emerges and flies off.

On a more on topic note, last summer I was touring around the inner sound between
Skye and the Scottish mainland. On the second morning setting out from camp there
are a bunch of midges out - the air was black with the vicious little critters so
it was pack the boat quick and get on the water, then 100 yards off shore just as
I was about to put my deck on this huge red and blue bug thing flies out of
nowhere into my cockpit! I was wearing shorts .... argggggg!!!! paddle back to the
midges like a man possessed ... but the  thing had gone to ground around the side
of the padding duck taped around the seat! Midges are really starting to get
thirsty and there is a huge multi-coloured bug hiding out in the depths of my
boat! arggggg! I quickly tipped the boat up, filled the cockpit with water, and
flicked the switch on the pump .......

I always like multi-functional gadgets :-)

Cheers

Colin Calder
57º19'N  2º10'W


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From: Bob Denton <BDenton_at_aquagulf.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:43:59 -0500
I think you stated it was a bumblebee and I believe they do not lose their
stingers.

cya

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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:10:20 -0800
Bob Denton wrote:
> 
> I think you stated it was a bumblebee and I believe they do not lose their
> stingers.
> 
> cya

I don't believe I stated the type of bee.  I'm a city kid.  A bee is a
bee is a bee to me.  Given the circumstances of its flight pattern I
would think it was a fumblebee.

Another story, and I hope Jackie forgives my being off-Paddlewise topic.
Last summeer I pulled out a pair of shorts from my cluttered closet and
felt this static sensation one gets from synthetic clothing.  I took the
shorts over to my wife in the next room and she felt the same sensation
commenting "It feels alive".  I wondered about that and squeezed the
hell out of the area that seemed most static, shook the shorts out,
looked everywhere and then put them away.

Three days later I went to put on the same shorts.  Got them on and was
zipping up the fly when I felt the same sensation quite strongly on my
left hip.  I whipped off the shorts and tossed them to the floor.  At
which point a dazed bee staggers out of the pocket liner.  It then flies
straight up in the air to a level just 18 inches from my now terrified
face, looks me in the eye, hovers there for a second or two, gets its
bearings and makes a bee line for an open window and out of there.

ralph
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From: Patrick Maun <pmaun_at_bitstream.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival (Allergies)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:10:22 -0600
Hey all,

just a short note. My mother discovered that she has developed an 
extreme reaction to bee stings. As I occasionally fear for my 
mortality, my doctor gave me a prescription for an EpiPen. It is a 
little auto-injector of epinephrine that I keep in my first aid kit. 
The pen is good for any allergic reactions (bees, bugs, deadly flying 
stinging plants (OK, those would be bees too I guess)), and even if 
not necessary, will not have any adverse site-effects if used on 
someone when I am just pissed off at them ("Hey, get moving -- 
JAB!"). I guess it has the equivalent power of a couple of cups of 
coffee.

Just another bit-o-gear for the boat.

-Patrick
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From: <Qajaq303_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival (Allergies)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:03:55 EST
In a message dated 2/18/00 2:22:27 PM Central Standard Time, 
pmaun_at_bitstream.net writes:

>  As I occasionally fear for my  mortality, my doctor gave me a prescription 
for an EpiPen
>  I guess it has the equivalent power of a couple of cups of 
>  coffee.

Hey, Patrick,
next time we boat together, bring a few of these for me.
I won't have to fire up that noisy stove and wake you up before noon:-))
Rob
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From: Allan and Joyce Singleton <alsjfs_at_voyager.co.nz>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Bee Survival
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:10:13 +1300
>
> I was wondering if the bee survived after encountering
> Ralph. Or did one your steps following the sting include
> playing sqaush the bee?
>

Don't Americans learn about the (birds and) bees at school??

The ones with stings are female (workers), and they die once they have stung
something. C'mon, you all knew that!


Allan Singleton
Hamilton NZ


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