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From: <Bhansen97_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] A Few Dozen Rolls (re-send)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:17:04 EST
Duane writes - 

<< By practice, I don't mean one or two rolls, but rather a few dozen.  It's 
 good to spend some time combat testing your roll in the surf too >>

If I had infinite stamina, I'd agree completely. Sadly, my own stamina is 
very finite, and if I try to do too many rolls at one time (in my case, more 
than 6 or 7 or 8) I begin to use less-than-good technique, and there's no 
gain. I've seen the same thing happen to much younger, stronger paddlers. For 
most of us, it seems to work best to do several rolls, then fool around with 
something else that's also fun, and then go back to the rolls. 

I know that "a few dozen" in any one afternoon is more than **I** ought to do 
- but each of us has to find his/her own place where "more" is not "better".

Hmmmm - seems like that's a thing our whole society might think about.....

Bill Hansen

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From: <Tomckayak_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A Few Dozen Rolls (re-send)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 11:59:22 EST
In a message dated 2/19/00 8:18:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Bhansen97_at_aol.com writes:

<< Sadly, my own stamina is 
very finite, and if I try to do too many rolls at one time (in my case, more 
than 6 or 7 or 8) I begin to use less-than-good technique, and there's no 
gain.   >>

This can also indicate what will happen in the real world, outside the pool. 
A long day paddling, stress and fear can make a good pool roll disappear when 
its needed most.

When continues rolling, one after the other, 7 or 8 rolls is a good stat. 
However over the length of a pool session I would worry.
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From: <Bhansen97_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] A Few Dozen Rolls (re-send)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 20:21:50 EST
Tom - Thanks for your note. I've "done" a grand total of 1 pool session in my 
14 year paddling life. I paddle in our lake, which is small by most standards 
at about 1.5 X 40 miles, for practice and for fun. That's where I do my 
rolling practice. Until last year I paddled 12 months out of the year. Last 
year and this one I've omitted January and (so far) February - too cold even 
for me when the air temp is below 20 and the water temp is below 35. I'm not 
comfortable enough in the really cold stuff to make it fun for me, and I 
won't paddle if it isn't fun.

I'm also lucky enough to get in a few long weeknds and the occasional 5-7 day 
trip on the Atlantic, off of Maine or Rhode Island, each year. 

I agree about those rolls at the end of a day's paddling too. They are more 
difficult - again because of muscular fatigue. I almost always do a few rolls 
just before take-out, for just the reason you mention.

Bill
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