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From: <Gypsykayak_at_aol.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 13:09:30 EST
In a message dated 02/07/2000 9:53:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
volinjo_at_juno.com writes:

<< Wouldn't it be great if we could arrange some kind of Paddlewise 
convention, and
 all get to meet each other! >>

GREAT idea, Joan.   Somewhere in the middle of the country that has a very 
popular airport because those are the ones that have discounts.  In fact, to 
contradict myself, it might be just as cheap for me to fly to the west coast 
on a special deal than somewhere closer.  

I suppose we could alternate - west coast one year - east coast the next.  

I put a new subject line.  The mind is boggling.  We can have loads of fun 
deciding who (will coordinate), where, and when.  I'm real cheap when it 
comes to hotels, so I'd like a place with a campground.  Perhaps tie it in 
with an outfitters demo day.

In fact, Florida Bay Outfitters   kayak_at_terranova.net   is holding its 2nd 
Annual Bogey and Bacall Classic and demo days the weekend of February 
19-20th.  They sent out race brochures along with brochures for the American 
Outdoors campground.  This might work for the year 2001 especially for you 
northerners who are freezing your tuckuses off.  

Us southerners love to get some cool weather and see mountains round about 
August or the Labor Day weekend.  North Carolina is particularly appealing.  
Or, through Atlanta, to someplace like Stone Mountain Park.  Beautiful 
camping spots and a humongous lake.

I've been trying to convince Ralph Diaz to organize a Folding Kayak 
convention.  It would be neat if we could do that and then we would get to 
try different types of folding yaks.

Another idea might be to arrange for it to coincide with a "freebie" holiday 
- ie Memorial Day in May or Columbus Day in October (but I guess a lot of 
people don't get Columbus Day off - it's great to be a government worker!)

Comments????
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From: Michael R Noyes <mnoyes_at_gsinet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 13:46:36 -0500
Gypsykayak_at_aol.com wrote:

> I put a new subject line.  The mind is boggling.  We can have loads of fun
> deciding who (will coordinate), where, and when.  I'm real cheap when it
> comes to hotels, so I'd like a place with a campground.  Perhaps tie it in
> with an outfitters demo day.

I guess great minds think alike.  Carry that over to other types of minds as far
as you like! :-)  The previous posts got me to thinking about meeting up with
other PaddleWisers at either the Kittery Trading Post Paddle Sports Show 2000
being held 31 March until 2 April or the LL Bean Symposium from 14 July through
16 July.  Of course we will need a way to identify each other.
These are both New England shows, being held in New Hampshire an Maine
respectively.  I can send the url for the two if anyone wants it.

Mike


--
    Paddling along through fog so thick that only one's thoughts are
visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great
blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a
mussel-shell beach witnessed only by the brooding, wet spruce....your
passage home seems as much back through time as it does through space.
Mark H Hunt


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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 20:40:40
At 01:46 PM 2/8/00 -0500, Michael R Noyes wrote:
>
>I guess great minds think alike.  Carry that over to other types of minds
as far
>as you like! :-)  The previous posts got me to thinking about meeting up with
>other PaddleWisers at either the Kittery Trading Post Paddle Sports Show 2000

I would suggest that if we're going to do this get-together, whether in NY
or somewhere else, that we do it as our own get-together, rather than
tagging it onto something else. A symposium, for example, might be a place
to get together but at the ones I've been to there's so much else going on
that we're not likely to be able to put much time or attention into
fellowship.

I must admit, I sort of like the idea of a get-together down in warm water
country next winter. But, that's next winter; there's not time to pull it
together now, and it would be nice to do something this summer. 

I would also in general support getting together someplace where there's
camping. As much as I would like to join Ralph on a paddle out to the Lady,
the downside is that it does involve a visit to NYC -- and I really do hate
cities. But, it would be interesting to do once.

Let's face it -- it's unlikely that we're going to get lots of people from
all over the country at any location. NYC is about 700 miles for me, and
that's a big weekend. Doable, but barely.

But, let's be organized about it, and find out who's interested in this and
where the interest is. I'll even volunteer to be the fall guy on this.

If you would be interested in attending a late-spring paddlewise
get-together within a long-weekend travel distance of where you live,
e-mail me personally, back channel to avoid cluttering the list. 

I want to know:

1. Name.

2. Where you live (in general -- southern Michigan, north Florida, NYC,
etc. is close enough).

3. How far a reasonable long-weekend trip would be for you.

To keep from dragging this out too long, e-mail me not later than Friday
evening, Feb. 11. I'll plot out the responses and see if I can find centers
of interest, and should be able to report over the weekend, assuming
nothing comes up, like open water.

-- Wes

(Who's looking forward to meeting some of you.)


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From: Wes Boyd <boydwe_at_dmci.net>
subject: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention (Repost)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:32:25
I've had a number of responses of people interested in attending
some sort of Paddlewise get-together. Responses have tailed off
in the last day or so, so I thought I'd post this one last time, 
with the intent of getting a report out tomorrow:

-------------------------------------------

If you would be interested in attending a late-spring paddlewise
get-together within a long-weekend travel distance of where you live,
e-mail me personally, back channel to avoid cluttering the list. 

I want to know:

1. Name.

2. Where you live (in general -- southern Michigan, north Florida, NYC,
etc. is close enough).

3. How far a reasonable long-weekend trip would be for you.

To keep from dragging this out too long, e-mail me not later than Friday
evening, Feb. 11. I'll plot out the responses and see if I can find centers
of interest, and should be able to report over the weekend, assuming
nothing comes up, like open water.

-- Wes

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From: Michael R Noyes <mnoyes_at_gsinet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:10:47 -0500
Karen Hancock wrote:

> > >>
> > OK, all you artists out there.  How about a "logo" designing competition?
> I
> >
> > believe it was Karen Hancock who once suggested yellow circles or
> something.
> >
>
> Hmm??
>
> That must be the yellow name tag idea we thought might work at the Port
> Townsend Symposium. I don't think anyone wore one! (I admit I didn't.)  :-)
>
> Karen
>
>

I seem t recall one person mentioning the day after or so that he did wear one
for a while.

Mike


--
    Paddling along through fog so thick that only one's thoughts are
visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great
blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a
mussel-shell beach witnessed only by the brooding, wet spruce....your
passage home seems as much back through time as it does through space.
Mark H Hunt



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From: Michael R Noyes <mnoyes_at_gsinet.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 01:47:17 -0500
It looks like the idea of having Ralph host us in NYC is out.  He will not be
home!
So tell us Ralph, with this schedule when do you get a chance to paddle? :-)

Mike

ralph diaz wrote:

> Which reminds me, I am planning to be at a handful of events in the next
> few months to talk about folding kayaks and certainly would like to meet
> with fellow PaddleWisers who want to drop by.  We wouldn't even have to
> talk about foldables, honest! :-)
>
> March 18-19 Norwalk, Connecticut The Small Boat Shop Expo.  They are not
> set up for talks but I will be at the Feathercraft/Klepper booth (they
> are the only folding kayak exhibitors there).  Details about the show
> can be gotten by calling 203-854-5223 or
> http://www.thesmallboatshop.com.  There is a $5 fee, I think I have the
> rate right.
>
> March 31-April 2 in Somerset, New Jersey The Jersey Paddler Paddlesport
> show.  As Joe Pylka says, it is less than an hour from NYC and a little
> over that from Philadelphia and probably about 3 hours and change from
> Washington DC.  I will be giving a talk at 11:30 AM Sat and 2:30 PM on
> Sunday.  At other times I will be at the Feathercraft booth or hanging
> around with Debbie Reeves at the Atlantic Sea Kayakers booth or at the
> Anorak booth with Gabriel Romeu and others.  Details for the show  can
> be gotten from http://www.jerseypaddler.com or calling 1-800-22-KAYAK.
> The entrance fee is $7.  This is a huge show of all sorts of gears and
> boats.  It may be about the biggest of this type except for the Rutabaga
> one,, Canoecopia, in Madison, Wisconsin.  Best keep your wallet at home
> or take out a second mortgage before going.
>
> Either April 8 or April 22 in New York City.  Run by the New York Kayak
> Company and completely on folding kayaks for the morning or the whole
> day with on-water demos.  They sell Kleppers, Feathercrafts and
> Nautiraids.  It should be fun.  I think we are settling on the latter
> date, the 22nd.  Call Randy Henriksen at 1-800-KAYAK-99.  There will
> likely be a fee or you will be asked to make a contribution to the
> Downtown Boathouse where it is being held.
>
> May 5-7 in the San Francisco area.  This is a weekend on folding kayaks
> and will be based at a campground with paddling 10 or 15 minutes away.
> It is being run by BASK (Bay Area Sea Kayakers) and I am a catalyst for
> the talks, show-n-tell, gear discussions, etc.  The Western Folding
> Kayak Center will be there with boats to show (it sells all the major
> brands of foldables).  There is a fee and attendence will be limited in
> numbers. BASK members will get first crack at signing up for this
> camping weekend.  I think you can pop in for the day, but I am fuzzy on
> the details.
>
> June 7th Washington DC area.  Alexandria VA to be exact.  At The
> Atlantic Kayak Shop (1-800-297-0066)  I will be giving a 2-hour evening
> talk.  I think their web site is http://www.atlantickayak.com
>

--
    Paddling along through fog so thick that only one's thoughts are
visible, your reverie is abruptly shattered by the ancient cry of a great
blue heron as she lifts uncertainly from the brilliant blue of a
mussel-shell beach witnessed only by the brooding, wet spruce....your
passage home seems as much back through time as it does through space.
Mark H Hunt



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From: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] Paddlewise Convention
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 10:03:33 -0800
Michael R Noyes wrote:
> 
> It looks like the idea of having Ralph host us in NYC is out.  He will not be
> home!
> So tell us Ralph, with this schedule when do you get a chance to paddle? :-)
> 
> Mike

Oh I will get lots of paddling in in-between and around things. 
The May event in San Francisco has a heavy paddling component built
in.   And I probably will fly in a day or two early and hook up with
hooky-playing local paddlers in the area.  Any one willing to put up
with me, oops I mean put me up, let me know.  Also I will use the visit
to DC as an excuse to do some local paddling.

As for closer to home, I expect to get back out on the water in March as
the ice starts melting and there is plenty of paddling in April in these
parts.  From next month through into June is the best paddling time in
NY and environs.  The air starts getting warm and, thanks to the miracle
of newer types of cold water protective clothing, one can paddle safely
in warmer temperatures while being ready for a possible dip in the cold
blue stuff.  The motorboat traffic is nil; most of the marinas don't put
boats in the water from drydock until about mid- to end-May.

Memorial Day would be a good time for a regional PaddleWise get-together
around here as Joan Volin concurs.  Fourth of July is out because of
OpSail and the huge celebration expected.  Basically, local waters in
the harbor will be closed to all but parade traffic for some 36 hours or
more on those days.  And even the Boathouse embayment may be invaded by
moored powerboats, at least that is what is coming out of the Coast
Guard, which is likely to freeze traffic and push it off to the sides of
the river.

But we do need a national get-together someplace and one that is all our
own and not a tag-on to a symposium although those would be great too.

We also need a logo or badge.  I hope someone can take up the design
issue and the production issue.  I will address this in a separate post.

ralph diaz 
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