I have a kayaking issue that I have been struggling with for a while now, and I feel that a reality check might be in order. Paddlewise seems to represent a pretty good cross section of the touring/sea kayaking community, therefore I have decided to try and use you kind folks to help me out. I would really appreciate if I could get as many of you as are willing to respond to my little survey below. It's only six quick questions, which you can post the answers to on Paddlewise, or send them directly to me -- whatever's easier. If I can draw any startling conclusions from this survey then I will pass the results along to the list. 1. How many years have you been kayaking? A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 2. How many years have you been kayak touring/sea kayaking? A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 3. How many years have you been whitewater kayaking? A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 4. If you were to accidentally capsize what percentage comes closest to your ability to successfully roll back up? A. 25% of the time B. 50% of the time C. 75% of the time D. 100% of the time E. Can't roll 5. 10 being the greatest importance, and 1 being the least importance, on a scale of 1 to 10 how important would you rate the roll for touring/sea kayakers? 6. In the context of touring/sea kayaking how would you rate the roll as a skill to learn? A. Beginner B. Intermediate C. Advanced Thanks for any and all responses. Scott So.Cal. KiAyker_at_aol.com *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
Okay, I'll give it a shot: > 1. How many years have you been kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 B > > 2. How many years have you been kayak touring/sea kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 B > > 3. How many years have you been whitewater kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 A (way under - I've taken one lesson; other than that, I use whitewater boats in the pool) > > 4. If you were to accidentally capsize what percentage comes closest > to your > ability to successfully roll back up? > A. 25% of the time B. 50% of the time C. 75% of the time D. 100% of the time E. Can't roll Can't answer that - I only just perfected my pool roll; haven't tried it in combat yet. > > 5. 10 being the greatest importance, and 1 being the least > importance, on a > scale of 1 to 10 how important would you rate the roll for touring/sea kayakers? Not a simple answer - it depends on what they're doing. But I'd average it out at about 8 > > 6. In the context of touring/sea kayaking how would you rate the roll as a skill to learn? > A. Beginner B. Intermediate C. Advanced B > > Thanks for any and all responses. > > Scott > So.Cal. > KiAyker_at_aol.com > ************************************************************************* ** > PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author > and not > to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission > Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net > Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net > Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ > ************************************************************************* ** ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
OK, Scott, I'll bite... Why do you title the subject "reality check?" Bob V >1. How many years have you been kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 =====B >2. How many years have you been kayak touring/sea kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 =====B > >3. How many years have you been whitewater kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 =====A > >4. If you were to accidentally capsize what percentage comes closest to your >ability to successfully roll back up? > A. 25% of the time B. 50% of the time C. 75% of the time D. >100% of the time E. Can't roll =====D (you said "closest", not absolutely) > >5. 10 being the greatest importance, and 1 being the least importance, on a >scale of 1 to 10 how important would you rate the roll for touring/sea >kayakers? ===== 8 (but this depends greatly on the range of conditions each paddler will seek/tolerate) > >6. In the context of touring/sea kayaking how would you rate the roll as a >skill to learn? > A. Beginner B. Intermediate C. Advanced =====B *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
----- Original Message ----- From: <KiAyker_at_aol.com> To: <PaddleWise_at_lists.intelenet.net> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 11:39 AM Subject: [Paddlewise] Reality check! Here I go !... > 1. How many years have you been kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 Over 10 > 2. How many years have you been kayak touring/sea kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 Over 10 > 3. How many years have you been whitewater kayaking? > A. Under 5 B. 5 - 10 C. Over 10 5 - 10 I always liked whitewaters but I was too afraid of it. I only tried it once I mastered my roll in my seakayak and even started giving some seakayaking courses, roll included. My first atempt was a class II river, and it was real fun untill my first capsize, when I panicly swimed out abandoning all my equipement. How could I be with all my experience ???. So I started over again and learned all the whitewater technique I could. Most of it I used to better up my seakayaking and the most useful was to roll and brace under almost any conditions (wind, waves, turbulence, cross-currents, cold water, etc.) > 4. If you were to accidentally capsize what percentage comes closest to your > ability to successfully roll back up? > A. 25% of the time B. 50% of the time C. 75% of the time D. > 100% of the time E. Can't roll 100% of the time I´m always practicing. I hate wet exits and love the adrenaline rouge seas and whitewater provide. I don´t like to fail rolling and find no fun in bailing out and reentering. I should add that even when I give seakayaking instruction I never try to pranctice my rolls when I´m not alone. I haven´t failed in years but it can fail any time. I also don´t run rapids alone and after dislocating a shoulder while kayaking some years ago, I don´t go further than class III + whitewaters. > 5. 10 being the greatest importance, and 1 being the least importance, on a > scale of 1 to 10 how important would you rate the roll for touring/sea > kayakers? 10 Rolling is essential. Given the propper instruction is very easy to learn. No matter if you are boy or girl, tall or short, thin or fat, young or old, it can´t take more than 2 or 3 classes, so there´s not excuses for not learning it. Even when you consider yourself an "easy water" paddler, storms can show up in a few minutes, less than you need to reach coast. You can even loose your balance while looking for a snack, taking a picture, or even siting better for comfort. Any stupid movement can make you loose your bakance and capsize. And if you can´t roll, you´ll be ALWAYS afraid of capsizing, no matter when or where you are, which kayak you use, or with whom you are paddling. > 6. In the context of touring/sea kayaking how would you rate the roll as a > skill to learn? > A. Beginner B. Intermediate C. Advanced Beginner In my courses I first introduce the seakayak and the equipment, then teach how to paddle forward, turn around and the balance of course, and inmediately start with the exits asiisted rescues and rolls. I show the students 3 techiques, screw, pawlatta, and c to c. Each one try them and choose the one they find easier. Then we work it out untill they feel confident. Then we go paddling and I teach them the bracing strokes, balance with waves, etc. In the advance or intermediate level I teach them the remaining rolling techniques and make them practice enought so they don´t fail any attempt. Rolling give the students confidence enough to learn the most advanced techniques. They can concentrate on the manouver instead of being worried to capsize. Rolling is the barrier that makes things different, it makes things really easy. To put it in a few words, THE ROLL IS WHERE MOST PROBLEMS END AND REAL FUN BEGIN !!! Best regards, UNIÓN DE KAYAKISTAS DE TRAVESÍA Fernando López Arbarello uktkayak_at_uol.com.ar *************************************************************************** PaddleWise Paddling Mailing List - All postings copyright the author and not to be reproduced outside PaddleWise without author's permission Submissions: paddlewise_at_lists.intelenet.net Subscriptions: paddlewise-request_at_lists.intelenet.net Website: http://www.paddlewise.net/ ***************************************************************************
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