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From: David Seales <dseal_at_ntplx.com>
subject: [Paddlewise] followup on upside down paddles
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:28:41 -0400
 >It occurs to me that there is not only the problem of the upside down
 >paddle and ways of determining if a paddler is in state of such
 >confusion but also, and more importantly, how do you tell them to
 >correct it.
 >

tell 'em the paddle has to droop...like it's melting in the water



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From: Seng, Dave <Dave_Seng_at_health.state.ak.us>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] followup on upside down paddles
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:16:36 -0800
> From: ralph diaz [mailto:rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com]
> 
> It occurs to me that there is not only the problem of the upside down
> paddle and ways of determining if a paddler is in state of such
> confusion but also, and more importantly, how do you tell them to
> correct it.

  If they paddle upside down , but it works for them and feels good then why
change'em?  Nature will sort things out eventually and the less efficient
paddlers will die off from starvation because they cannot keep up on the
hunts and thus be denied opportunities at the kills.  (wait.....didn't the
Inuit share food communally?)<grin>
  It really doesn't matter as long as they're on the water and having fun.

Dave Seng (who has come clean in the past about paddling with an upside-down
paddle)
Juneau, Alaska

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From: BaysideBob <vaughan_at_jps.net>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] followup on upside down paddles
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 16:55:34 -0700
I was getting ready to explain which way is up then.......
What if I've been wrong all this time?
I'd be humiliated by corrections on Paddlewise.
Then folks from my local list, who are also on Paddlewise, would explain to
me that when they saw me coming, they would all turn their paddles upside
down to avoid embarassing me and that they really didn't want me to come
along because they would have to hold their paddles upside-down, but were
too nice to say anything about it.
Now I can only paddle solo, in the dark.

Bob


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From: <KiAyker_at_aol.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] followup on upside down paddles
Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 20:00:56 EDT
   O.K., I had a couple of thoughts regarding upside down paddling; 

   I tried this once and got too much water in my sinuses, so I don't do it 
anymore.

                                                 next

   Perhaps the beginners who hold their paddles upside down are just trying 
to be efficient in the event of a capsize.

                                              one more

   Doesn't everyone in New Zealand and Australia hold their paddles upside 
down?

   O.K., I'm through now.
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From: Whiterabbit <whiterabbit_at_empowering.com>
subject: Re: [Paddlewise] followup on upside down paddles
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:37:09 -0500
I heard a tip this weekend.  One of the paddlers in the group puts tape on
the right hand grip area and then removes it.  He can tell by feel when he
has the paddle upside right by the sticky feel.
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From: John Fereira <jaf30_at_cornell.edu>
To: ralph diaz <rdiaz_at_ix.netcom.com>; paddlewise
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Date: Monday, April 17, 2000 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Paddlewise] followup on upside down paddles


>At 03:56 PM 4/14/00 -0700, ralph diaz wrote:
>>It occurs to me that there is not only the problem of the upside down
>>paddle and ways of determining if a paddler is in state of such
>>confusion but also, and more importantly, how do you tell them to
>>correct it.
>
>I have just told them, "put the paddle blade that's on the left side of the
>boat on the right side of the boat".  Sometimes ya gotta just show them.
>
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From: Shawn W. Baker <baker_at_montana.com>
subject: RE: [Paddlewise] followup on upside down paddles
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:00:04 -0600
When I was at pool practice on Sunday night, I tried paddling with the
paddle upside-down.  It was incredibly difficult, especially considering
that the paddler and kayak were also upside-down.  Anybody else ever try
this?

I was wearing a dive mask so I could see my paddle blades, but I
couldn't decide whether it was more confusing to watch, or to try to
propel myself upside down with my eyes closed.

Paddling upside-down probably contributes to little skill building,
other than making one more comfortable hanging out "down there".

Shawn

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